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	<title>Comments on: Responses to Blackface: Why Blacks May Not Trust White People</title>
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		<title>By: Rosario Stefania Scarsci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosario Stefania Scarsci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be honest, the only reason HCJ did that was so that he could save for in the u.s. career wise. You know very well that if there weren&#039;t cameras around he&#039;d be chuckling it u. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest, the only reason HCJ did that was so that he could save for in the u.s. career wise. You know very well that if there weren&#8217;t cameras around he&#8217;d be chuckling it u. </p>
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		<title>By: MrT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly....not worth it 9 times out of 10...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly&#8230;.not worth it 9 times out of 10&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hadn&#039;t realised this was on this website!
I&#039;m a person of colour from Australia, I was angry with the way the mainstream media was handling this. Most did take the &#039;we&#039;re not American, this is Australian humour&#039; defence route.

I wanted to ask them &#039;So you&#039;re saying that in the past those US comedians who did Blackface KNEW that they were being racist? Didn&#039;t they just think they were being funny? Poking fun, having a good laugh about black people?&#039;

Same thing, different time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hadn&#8217;t realised this was on this website!<br />
I&#8217;m a person of colour from Australia, I was angry with the way the mainstream media was handling this. Most did take the &#8216;we&#8217;re not American, this is Australian humour&#8217; defence route.</p>
<p>I wanted to ask them &#8216;So you&#8217;re saying that in the past those US comedians who did Blackface KNEW that they were being racist? Didn&#8217;t they just think they were being funny? Poking fun, having a good laugh about black people?&#8217;</p>
<p>Same thing, different time.</p>
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		<title>By: A passerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>A passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, the reason I don&#039;t trust white people is because we don&#039;t have the same values. By example, in my culture, you don&#039;t go out and run your mouth  telling all your personal business to perfect strangers. For white people, it means being nice, agreeable. They call that being friendly, when we call that being shameless. Different places, different cultures...

And when I say white people, I am talking about the former colonizing countries because in my country or in my mother tongue, when we say &quot;white people&quot;, we&#039;re talking about our former &quot;Masters&quot;. They&#039;re the ones who first call us savages and now try to assimilate us by all means. Even if a Norvegian or Croatian person has a fair complexion and is basically a white person, why would I distrust that person? There&#039;s nothing in my history, the history that has been passed to me, which says that they did wrong to people and that I should be wary of them. So, most of the times, people don&#039;t distrut all &quot;white people&quot; but only the ones they&#039;re familiar with. When people express distrust against a targeted group of people, it&#039;s usually based on historical/personal precedents or simple (unproven) prejudice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, the reason I don&#8217;t trust white people is because we don&#8217;t have the same values. By example, in my culture, you don&#8217;t go out and run your mouth  telling all your personal business to perfect strangers. For white people, it means being nice, agreeable. They call that being friendly, when we call that being shameless. Different places, different cultures&#8230;</p>
<p>And when I say white people, I am talking about the former colonizing countries because in my country or in my mother tongue, when we say &#8220;white people&#8221;, we&#8217;re talking about our former &#8220;Masters&#8221;. They&#8217;re the ones who first call us savages and now try to assimilate us by all means. Even if a Norvegian or Croatian person has a fair complexion and is basically a white person, why would I distrust that person? There&#8217;s nothing in my history, the history that has been passed to me, which says that they did wrong to people and that I should be wary of them. So, most of the times, people don&#8217;t distrut all &#8220;white people&#8221; but only the ones they&#8217;re familiar with. When people express distrust against a targeted group of people, it&#8217;s usually based on historical/personal precedents or simple (unproven) prejudice.</p>
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		<title>By: A passerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>A passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, you American people have to stop thinking what anything offensing in your country should be in the rest of the world. The same goes for whatever behavior you find acceptable as per your rules and yu expect the rest of the world to abide by in the name of democracy or globalization.

First of all, black doesn&#039;t equate Black American or African-American. I am black ie my skin color is black and I couldn&#039;t care less about blackface because I am African. The racism people faced in my country from white people is different from what African-American dealt with. A clip with 5 white people passing off as the Jacksons 5 won&#039;t offend me and I am black. So are the aboriginal people in Australia. They&#039;re black too. Were they offended?

I like Harry Connick Jr because he put it in the context of an American viewpoint. However, expecting the other people on the show who are not American and who couldn&#039;t care less about your racial issues (they have their own with the aboriginal people) to be as sad as the only representant of the great USA, can you spell &quot;self-centered&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, you American people have to stop thinking what anything offensing in your country should be in the rest of the world. The same goes for whatever behavior you find acceptable as per your rules and yu expect the rest of the world to abide by in the name of democracy or globalization.</p>
<p>First of all, black doesn&#8217;t equate Black American or African-American. I am black ie my skin color is black and I couldn&#8217;t care less about blackface because I am African. The racism people faced in my country from white people is different from what African-American dealt with. A clip with 5 white people passing off as the Jacksons 5 won&#8217;t offend me and I am black. So are the aboriginal people in Australia. They&#8217;re black too. Were they offended?</p>
<p>I like Harry Connick Jr because he put it in the context of an American viewpoint. However, expecting the other people on the show who are not American and who couldn&#8217;t care less about your racial issues (they have their own with the aboriginal people) to be as sad as the only representant of the great USA, can you spell &#8220;self-centered&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: md</title>
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		<dc:creator>md</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Stop trying to slump a certain group of people as one voice, one opinion for the general public.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

That is exactly what Lisa has done in the original post when she (based on a sketchy online poll) states: 

&quot;Further, the majority of Australians are defending the minstrelsy....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Stop trying to slump a certain group of people as one voice, one opinion for the general public.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>That is exactly what Lisa has done in the original post when she (based on a sketchy online poll) states: </p>
<p>&#8220;Further, the majority of Australians are defending the minstrelsy&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mochi Blog &#124; &#8220;Colorface:&#8221; When an Ethnic Identity is Reduced to Makeup and Trends</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mochi Blog &#124; &#8220;Colorface:&#8221; When an Ethnic Identity is Reduced to Makeup and Trends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] began with the Australian show “Hey Hey It’s Saturday” in which a cover group called the Jackson Jive performed in blackface, to mostly negative feedback. The trend is resurfacing in fashion as well: the Oct. 2009 French [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] began with the Australian show “Hey Hey It’s Saturday” in which a cover group called the Jackson Jive performed in blackface, to mostly negative feedback. The trend is resurfacing in fashion as well: the Oct. 2009 French [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Manny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t make it any less racist or offencive. When something is offencive it&#039;s offencive period.

That just makes the person who finds funny ignorant and a bigot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t make it any less racist or offencive. When something is offencive it&#8217;s offencive period.</p>
<p>That just makes the person who finds funny ignorant and a bigot.</p>
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		<title>By: Manny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is wrong no matter how you do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is wrong no matter how you do it.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
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		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your second paragraph sounds an &lt;i&gt;awful&lt;/i&gt; lot like the people who claim that, because we now have a black president, there is no more racism in America.

Clearly that&#039;s not true, just as the fact that a few people of various ethnicities became doctors doesn&#039;t mean that there&#039;s no racism in Australia. I&#039;m sure you have some black doctors, too. We sure do!

And note that none of those men is black - I know this may be hard to believe, but racism isn&#039;t one big monolithic thing. Different ethnic groups have different stereotypes pointed at them, and racism affects them differently. Their personal experiences with racism - or lack of it - don&#039;t really say anything about the experiences of a black person in Australia.

I agree that it was in bad taste because of Michael&#039;s death, but that doesn&#039;t mean that the blackface part &lt;i&gt;wasn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; also in bad taste on its own. I also agree that Borat was offensive to an entire nation, but that doesn&#039;t mean that this isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;also&lt;/i&gt; offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your second paragraph sounds an <i>awful</i> lot like the people who claim that, because we now have a black president, there is no more racism in America.</p>
<p>Clearly that&#8217;s not true, just as the fact that a few people of various ethnicities became doctors doesn&#8217;t mean that there&#8217;s no racism in Australia. I&#8217;m sure you have some black doctors, too. We sure do!</p>
<p>And note that none of those men is black &#8211; I know this may be hard to believe, but racism isn&#8217;t one big monolithic thing. Different ethnic groups have different stereotypes pointed at them, and racism affects them differently. Their personal experiences with racism &#8211; or lack of it &#8211; don&#8217;t really say anything about the experiences of a black person in Australia.</p>
<p>I agree that it was in bad taste because of Michael&#8217;s death, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that the blackface part <i>wasn&#8217;t</i> also in bad taste on its own. I also agree that Borat was offensive to an entire nation, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that this isn&#8217;t <i>also</i> offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
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		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;was my friend going to a halloween party as aunt Jemaima wrong because she was in blackface?&lt;/i&gt;

The fact that you even have to ask that is really sad. Yes. Yes it was wrong. Yes, she probably offended people who were too polite to point it out.

You seem to be exemplifying the &quot;colorblind&quot; sort of attitude that just doesn&#039;t work. Racism won&#039;t go away just because we all ignore the fact that race exists. Because guess what? It does, and you have to deal with that fact head-on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>was my friend going to a halloween party as aunt Jemaima wrong because she was in blackface?</i></p>
<p>The fact that you even have to ask that is really sad. Yes. Yes it was wrong. Yes, she probably offended people who were too polite to point it out.</p>
<p>You seem to be exemplifying the &#8220;colorblind&#8221; sort of attitude that just doesn&#8217;t work. Racism won&#8217;t go away just because we all ignore the fact that race exists. Because guess what? It does, and you have to deal with that fact head-on.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
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		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why it bothers me when people online pull out the &quot;racism = prejudice + power&quot; line. Yes, some academic fields operationalize the term that way. But colloquially that&#039;s not what it means or how it is used, and it&#039;s disingenuous to pretend otherwise. And trust me, you don&#039;t want to go around using the academically-operationalized definitions of most words, because a) you&#039;d rarely find ones that agree and b) you&#039;d be using definitions that are often far from what people really mean.

Using that definition often turns into an excuse for non-white people to claim they&#039;re not racist despite their obvious prejudices against other ethnicities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why it bothers me when people online pull out the &#8220;racism = prejudice + power&#8221; line. Yes, some academic fields operationalize the term that way. But colloquially that&#8217;s not what it means or how it is used, and it&#8217;s disingenuous to pretend otherwise. And trust me, you don&#8217;t want to go around using the academically-operationalized definitions of most words, because a) you&#8217;d rarely find ones that agree and b) you&#8217;d be using definitions that are often far from what people really mean.</p>
<p>Using that definition often turns into an excuse for non-white people to claim they&#8217;re not racist despite their obvious prejudices against other ethnicities.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; or so [forward] you had *no idea* there was anything wrong with it? 
FTFY

&gt; I just get eyerolls and sneers about my sense of humor. I don’t know what to do anymore.

Understand that people&#039;s sense of humor and offense are different. What is offensive to one, is funny to another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; or so [forward] you had *no idea* there was anything wrong with it?<br />
FTFY</p>
<p>&gt; I just get eyerolls and sneers about my sense of humor. I don’t know what to do anymore.</p>
<p>Understand that people&#8217;s sense of humor and offense are different. What is offensive to one, is funny to another.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Since when was the size of the minority a criterion for social justice and inclusion amongst progressive folk?

It always has been. It&#039;s democracy, there is strength in numbers. The size of a group can determine it&#039;s economic and social influence. Publicity can counter this, thus a hyperexposed group of one person may outrank unknown millions but you get the idea. The more presence a group has, the more there stance is known etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Since when was the size of the minority a criterion for social justice and inclusion amongst progressive folk?</p>
<p>It always has been. It&#8217;s democracy, there is strength in numbers. The size of a group can determine it&#8217;s economic and social influence. Publicity can counter this, thus a hyperexposed group of one person may outrank unknown millions but you get the idea. The more presence a group has, the more there stance is known etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much time did you spend in Korea? Just because it&#039;s possible to find bits and pieces of cultures from thousands of miles away it is NOTHING like living there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much time did you spend in Korea? Just because it&#8217;s possible to find bits and pieces of cultures from thousands of miles away it is NOTHING like living there.</p>
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