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		<title>By: :]</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-301211</link>
		<dc:creator>:]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 17:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yah i know her .. shes really japanese she worked with me at abercrombie in London.. shes a manager now at A&amp;F tokyo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yah i know her .. shes really japanese she worked with me at abercrombie in London.. shes a manager now at A&amp;F tokyo</p>
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		<title>By: WUWT</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-204813</link>
		<dc:creator>WUWT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree, you sum up my feelings perfectly.  I am *amazed* at the number of people who don&#039;t see anything wrong with this.  Is there anything wrong with fully consenting mild bondage between two adults?  No.  Is there anything wrong with using images of that in advertising like this?  Yes.  Context of the conditions in which this practice is acceptable is totally missing here, can&#039;t be conveyed in an ad photo.  And for those who don&#039;t like me using &#039;acceptable&#039; - ie. who am I to judge? - what I mean is not so aberrant one should consider professional help to understand the feelings that drive more extreme feelings/desires.  If my wife wants to bind my hands occasionally and I enjoy that helpless feeling, that&#039;s acceptable.  If my wife ties me up and beats me against my will, that&#039;s not acceptable.  If my wife ties me up and beats me and we both get a kick out of that, we should consider professional help to understand why.  That&#039;s what I mean.

In any case, I&#039;d vehemently protest this ad if it were local.  And lest anyone think I&#039;m some puritan curmudgeon, this is a very sexy ad. Mild submission and dominance is a very common trigger, and it triggers a response for me.  I don&#039;t have a problem in general with an ad triggering a sexual response (ie. sexiness does sell, foolish to argue that) but this is different.  It touches more than simple sexiness; it speaks to a practice that requires much context, risks an interpretation of approval for unhealthy/inappropriate feelings, and encourages a view of women in our society we are working so hard in other ways to break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree, you sum up my feelings perfectly.  I am *amazed* at the number of people who don&#8217;t see anything wrong with this.  Is there anything wrong with fully consenting mild bondage between two adults?  No.  Is there anything wrong with using images of that in advertising like this?  Yes.  Context of the conditions in which this practice is acceptable is totally missing here, can&#8217;t be conveyed in an ad photo.  And for those who don&#8217;t like me using &#8216;acceptable&#8217; &#8211; ie. who am I to judge? &#8211; what I mean is not so aberrant one should consider professional help to understand the feelings that drive more extreme feelings/desires.  If my wife wants to bind my hands occasionally and I enjoy that helpless feeling, that&#8217;s acceptable.  If my wife ties me up and beats me against my will, that&#8217;s not acceptable.  If my wife ties me up and beats me and we both get a kick out of that, we should consider professional help to understand why.  That&#8217;s what I mean.</p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;d vehemently protest this ad if it were local.  And lest anyone think I&#8217;m some puritan curmudgeon, this is a very sexy ad. Mild submission and dominance is a very common trigger, and it triggers a response for me.  I don&#8217;t have a problem in general with an ad triggering a sexual response (ie. sexiness does sell, foolish to argue that) but this is different.  It touches more than simple sexiness; it speaks to a practice that requires much context, risks an interpretation of approval for unhealthy/inappropriate feelings, and encourages a view of women in our society we are working so hard in other ways to break.</p>
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		<title>By: Asian = Exotic &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-204086</link>
		<dc:creator>Asian = Exotic &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are an easy way to broadcast the idea that your product is exotic and mysterious. And Asian women like being tied up. And they make people hungry. Groups of Asians make good background props or dancers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are an easy way to broadcast the idea that your product is exotic and mysterious. And Asian women like being tied up. And they make people hungry. Groups of Asians make good background props or dancers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sex and Power &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-202833</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex and Power &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More conflations of sex and power here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chelle</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-200712</link>
		<dc:creator>Chelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Sexual degradation
2. Sexism
3. BDSM (for the societal context where we think BDSM is weird, this is very weird) And for those who say this isn&#039;t BDSM, open your eyes. Bondage, Domination, Sadism, Masochism. Bondage means ropes. Way to have the ropes emphasize her bust.
4. Racism: Asian woman in ropes, so she must be submissive.

It doesn&#039;t matter if she looks like &quot;O hay you sexy thang~&quot;, considering all ads with women in them pretty much have that same message (look at Evony, Abercrombie &amp; Fitch, Jacob, etc). Women in our society have always been regarded as subordinate, and should be submissive. Hence, &quot;bring me a sandwich, woman.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Sexual degradation<br />
2. Sexism<br />
3. BDSM (for the societal context where we think BDSM is weird, this is very weird) And for those who say this isn&#8217;t BDSM, open your eyes. Bondage, Domination, Sadism, Masochism. Bondage means ropes. Way to have the ropes emphasize her bust.<br />
4. Racism: Asian woman in ropes, so she must be submissive.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter if she looks like &#8220;O hay you sexy thang~&#8221;, considering all ads with women in them pretty much have that same message (look at Evony, Abercrombie &amp; Fitch, Jacob, etc). Women in our society have always been regarded as subordinate, and should be submissive. Hence, &#8220;bring me a sandwich, woman.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TeakLipstickFiend</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-120742</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakLipstickFiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it clever? They are using sex to sell something = not original, not clever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it clever? They are using sex to sell something = not original, not clever.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakLipstickFiend</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-120735</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakLipstickFiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How kind of the advertisers to want to teach Swiss men about this aspect of Japanese culture - not.

And I agree with Rachel: you&#039;re either consenting or not consenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How kind of the advertisers to want to teach Swiss men about this aspect of Japanese culture &#8211; not.</p>
<p>And I agree with Rachel: you&#8217;re either consenting or not consenting.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakLipstickFiend</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-120730</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakLipstickFiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me the woman&#039;s face actually looks wary, as if she&#039;s not sure what&#039;s going to happen to her.

But that&#039;s all beside the point. If the ad is to advertise sturdy laces, wouldn’t it make more sense to have an obviously physically strong person resisting being tied up? Why would you have a (supposedly) submissive person (supposedly) enjoying being tied up? It wouldn’t matter then whether the laces were sturdy or not. The fact that they didn’t do the former shows that the ad is clearly for titillating men using a stereotype – and that’s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me the woman&#8217;s face actually looks wary, as if she&#8217;s not sure what&#8217;s going to happen to her.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s all beside the point. If the ad is to advertise sturdy laces, wouldn’t it make more sense to have an obviously physically strong person resisting being tied up? Why would you have a (supposedly) submissive person (supposedly) enjoying being tied up? It wouldn’t matter then whether the laces were sturdy or not. The fact that they didn’t do the former shows that the ad is clearly for titillating men using a stereotype – and that’s all.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-118921</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Part of the racism *is* the smiling: as though a black woman is just tickled to death to be serving white people, all in a context where she has very few other options.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes yes yes that yes yes that!

&quot;Fairly consenting&quot;. Mother of god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Part of the racism *is* the smiling: as though a black woman is just tickled to death to be serving white people, all in a context where she has very few other options.</i></p>
<p>Yes yes yes that yes yes that!</p>
<p>&#8220;Fairly consenting&#8221;. Mother of god.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-118920</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There is no violence in this ad.&lt;/i&gt;

What the hell? There is no BDSM in this ad. There is a passive, tied-up small Asian woman objectified as a sexual commodity in order to sell shoes to men. It is racist and sexist and if you seriously can&#039;t see the violence in tying a woman up and offering her as a sexual commodity OUTSIDE OF A BDSM CONTEXT, then you are a pretty shitty sociologist.

I&#039;ve been involved in BDSM as long as I&#039;ve been involved in sex. It is my &quot;lifestyle&quot;, if that&#039;s what we&#039;re calling it, so I&#039;m not touristing in here and missing the &quot;context&quot;. This ad is not, as Bagelsan pointed out, for or by BDSMers, or those involved in kinbaku either. This is not time to defend/educate people about BDSM, it&#039;s time to acknowledge that this is another in the stream of racist, sexist, violent imagery Western culture produces every day. Labelling this aspect of discussion as &quot;bigotry&quot; is just a silencing tactic, and a ridiculous one at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There is no violence in this ad.</i></p>
<p>What the hell? There is no BDSM in this ad. There is a passive, tied-up small Asian woman objectified as a sexual commodity in order to sell shoes to men. It is racist and sexist and if you seriously can&#8217;t see the violence in tying a woman up and offering her as a sexual commodity OUTSIDE OF A BDSM CONTEXT, then you are a pretty shitty sociologist.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been involved in BDSM as long as I&#8217;ve been involved in sex. It is my &#8220;lifestyle&#8221;, if that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re calling it, so I&#8217;m not touristing in here and missing the &#8220;context&#8221;. This ad is not, as Bagelsan pointed out, for or by BDSMers, or those involved in kinbaku either. This is not time to defend/educate people about BDSM, it&#8217;s time to acknowledge that this is another in the stream of racist, sexist, violent imagery Western culture produces every day. Labelling this aspect of discussion as &#8220;bigotry&#8221; is just a silencing tactic, and a ridiculous one at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Everything You Want Out of a Shoelace &#171; Direct Sunlight Needed</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-118706</link>
		<dc:creator>Everything You Want Out of a Shoelace &#171; Direct Sunlight Needed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eurasian Sensation</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-118665</link>
		<dc:creator>Eurasian Sensation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Context is everything here, people.

Within the context of the &quot;kink&quot; scene or whatever you wish to call it, this ad might be acceptable.

But put this out there for the wider community to see and it stirs up a whole lotta mess. In that context, the ad unwittingly encourages rape. You&#039;d be amazed how many stupid men there are whose view of consent is: &quot;Well, she might ACT like she doesn&#039;t want it, but I know she really wants it.&quot; 

This ad is fodder for that kind of guy.

Role-play &amp; kinky stuff is fine when all partners know the deal and are sensitive about where the line is between consent and non-consent. But not everyone understands this.

And the Japanese thing? Intentionally or not, it plays into all kinds of stereotypes of Asian women as submissive sexual servants.

Conclusion: this shit is messed up. If you can&#039;t see the implied violence here, open your eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Context is everything here, people.</p>
<p>Within the context of the &#8220;kink&#8221; scene or whatever you wish to call it, this ad might be acceptable.</p>
<p>But put this out there for the wider community to see and it stirs up a whole lotta mess. In that context, the ad unwittingly encourages rape. You&#8217;d be amazed how many stupid men there are whose view of consent is: &#8220;Well, she might ACT like she doesn&#8217;t want it, but I know she really wants it.&#8221; </p>
<p>This ad is fodder for that kind of guy.</p>
<p>Role-play &amp; kinky stuff is fine when all partners know the deal and are sensitive about where the line is between consent and non-consent. But not everyone understands this.</p>
<p>And the Japanese thing? Intentionally or not, it plays into all kinds of stereotypes of Asian women as submissive sexual servants.</p>
<p>Conclusion: this shit is messed up. If you can&#8217;t see the implied violence here, open your eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-117678</link>
		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how someone can look at this ad and not see sexual and racial objectification of an Asian woman. Her supposed &quot;look of consent&quot; has no real bearing on the meaning here, since the ad is targeted toward privileged men who think women &quot;like&quot; to be sexually objectified. I really don&#039;t see how you can relate this to BDSM since she is a small woman tied powerlessly to a shoe. It has nothing to do with the BDSM community, it&#039;s targeted toward sexist mainstream society. When you look at this ad while keeping in mind historical attitudes about women&#039;s sexual submission and stereotypical attitudes about &quot;submissive&quot; Asian women, it is clearly much more sinister than many commenters are acknowledging.

Ads like these don&#039;t exist in a cultural vacuum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how someone can look at this ad and not see sexual and racial objectification of an Asian woman. Her supposed &#8220;look of consent&#8221; has no real bearing on the meaning here, since the ad is targeted toward privileged men who think women &#8220;like&#8221; to be sexually objectified. I really don&#8217;t see how you can relate this to BDSM since she is a small woman tied powerlessly to a shoe. It has nothing to do with the BDSM community, it&#8217;s targeted toward sexist mainstream society. When you look at this ad while keeping in mind historical attitudes about women&#8217;s sexual submission and stereotypical attitudes about &#8220;submissive&#8221; Asian women, it is clearly much more sinister than many commenters are acknowledging.</p>
<p>Ads like these don&#8217;t exist in a cultural vacuum.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Nestor</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Nestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A rape fantasy can be consensually acted out, but if I see an ad featuring rape imagery, this generally isn&#039;t what I&#039;m going to assume is transpiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rape fantasy can be consensually acted out, but if I see an ad featuring rape imagery, this generally isn&#8217;t what I&#8217;m going to assume is transpiring.</p>
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		<title>By: GB</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/09/24/power-sex-and-shoelaces/comment-page-1/#comment-117529</link>
		<dc:creator>GB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read all the comments here and can respect the sensibilities of all concerned.

My take is this:

The underlying message is the dominant and insensitive power you will possess as a man if you own these shoes.

The use of BDSM and fetish is poorly represented and amateurishly utilised here. 

This ad is equally offensive to women, shoes, BDSM and advertising as it is a cheap exploitation scenario. 


My worst feeling at a gut level is this - never mind the fancy concept of objectification. My concern is more precise: abuse. 

This ad essentially portrays someone in love with her abuser and owner. 


That is not healthy BDSM, or anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read all the comments here and can respect the sensibilities of all concerned.</p>
<p>My take is this:</p>
<p>The underlying message is the dominant and insensitive power you will possess as a man if you own these shoes.</p>
<p>The use of BDSM and fetish is poorly represented and amateurishly utilised here. </p>
<p>This ad is equally offensive to women, shoes, BDSM and advertising as it is a cheap exploitation scenario. </p>
<p>My worst feeling at a gut level is this &#8211; never mind the fancy concept of objectification. My concern is more precise: abuse. </p>
<p>This ad essentially portrays someone in love with her abuser and owner. </p>
<p>That is not healthy BDSM, or anything else.</p>
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