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	<title>Comments on: Race and Gender in &#8220;The Princess and the Frog&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Tddeyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tddeyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my daughter just turned 5. i made a reservation to take her to disney for her princess make over. they dont have any princess tiana dresses, and no provision for tiana. this floored me as the movie has been out for 3 yrs now..so i bought her a dress, im taking her to disney anyway and they;re gonna figure out how to make my beautiful little girl a tiana princess. changes need to be made, just sayin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my daughter just turned 5. i made a reservation to take her to disney for her princess make over. they dont have any princess tiana dresses, and no provision for tiana. this floored me as the movie has been out for 3 yrs now..so i bought her a dress, im taking her to disney anyway and they;re gonna figure out how to make my beautiful little girl a tiana princess. changes need to be made, just sayin</p>
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		<title>By: Shootingmonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shootingmonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s just me, but the accents from the characters weren&#039;t actually Louisiananian accents. That fly didn&#039;t have a Cajun accent. He clearly had a fake one because his words weren&#039;t slurred enough in a rough manner. New Orleans is a Creole area, not a Cajun area so that&#039;s a historical inaccuracy but that&#039;s not really that important compared to other inaccurate historical issues that Disney has created. It&#039;s actually a Cajun stereotype that they ride around in boats in the bayou, know how to deal with alligators, and have bad hygiene because they&#039;re stupid. It&#039;s a secret thing that Cajuns are modest and don&#039;t appear much but are actually smart and resourceful. We&#039;ve learned to be modest overtime so people would live us alone and let us go about our business, but anyway. Most people don&#039;t believe that so Disney did do some good in that movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but the accents from the characters weren&#8217;t actually Louisiananian accents. That fly didn&#8217;t have a Cajun accent. He clearly had a fake one because his words weren&#8217;t slurred enough in a rough manner. New Orleans is a Creole area, not a Cajun area so that&#8217;s a historical inaccuracy but that&#8217;s not really that important compared to other inaccurate historical issues that Disney has created. It&#8217;s actually a Cajun stereotype that they ride around in boats in the bayou, know how to deal with alligators, and have bad hygiene because they&#8217;re stupid. It&#8217;s a secret thing that Cajuns are modest and don&#8217;t appear much but are actually smart and resourceful. We&#8217;ve learned to be modest overtime so people would live us alone and let us go about our business, but anyway. Most people don&#8217;t believe that so Disney did do some good in that movie.</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi guys im doing a research project oh how disney movies reinforce negative gender and racial stereotypes and would greatly appreciate it if you could take the time to answer my survey 
thanks
xx
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi guys im doing a research project oh how disney movies reinforce negative gender and racial stereotypes and would greatly appreciate it if you could take the time to answer my survey <br />
thanks<br />
xx<br />
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		<title>By: Gerpderp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerpderp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one film was more racist than all the other Disney movies combined. &quot;Inspirational,&quot; hard-working, cooking, magical black people with all the earthy, down-home answers to everything. &quot;Pompous&quot; (you somehow missed that descriptor in the deck of cards), rich, Colonel Sanders-style, spoiled, stupid white people who are too dumb to take care of themselves and too rich and stupid to realize how their position effects others. There was no in between, there were no characters at all- just die-cut stereotypes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one film was more racist than all the other Disney movies combined. &#8220;Inspirational,&#8221; hard-working, cooking, magical black people with all the earthy, down-home answers to everything. &#8220;Pompous&#8221; (you somehow missed that descriptor in the deck of cards), rich, Colonel Sanders-style, spoiled, stupid white people who are too dumb to take care of themselves and too rich and stupid to realize how their position effects others. There was no in between, there were no characters at all- just die-cut stereotypes. </p>
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		<title>By: Classic Disney Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Classic Disney Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my gosh, I LOVED those things!
ANd I think that A)The PRincess and Frog[I thinks?] was FABULOUS and Tiana is one of my top 3 most inpiring female leads from Disney[Mulan and POchahunous up there as well][I know I mispelled pochahunous]and B) Disney should be ASHAMED for getting rid of SUnflower in Fantasia. Now I kinda dont want o see it, and I never have. Sad, isnt it? My generation gets Hannah Montana and Lemonade Mouth insead of airing Mulan and Pochaunous.[They DO have P&amp;TF aired on HBO somtimes] and dan this is rather long. I&#039;m 11 by the way. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my gosh, I LOVED those things!<br />
ANd I think that A)The PRincess and Frog[I thinks?] was FABULOUS and Tiana is one of my top 3 most inpiring female leads from Disney[Mulan and POchahunous up there as well][I know I mispelled pochahunous]and B) Disney should be ASHAMED for getting rid of SUnflower in Fantasia. Now I kinda dont want o see it, and I never have. Sad, isnt it? My generation gets Hannah Montana and Lemonade Mouth insead of airing Mulan and Pochaunous.[They DO have P&amp;TF aired on HBO somtimes] and dan this is rather long. I&#8217;m 11 by the way. :D</p>
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		<title>By: A New Kind Of Royal Couple &#171; The Disney Influence</title>
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		<dc:creator>A New Kind Of Royal Couple &#171; The Disney Influence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 01:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] couple will allow little girls to be open-minded when it comes to love. It sends the message that race is not an issue and not something to be inhibited by. Disney is sending a positive message to not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jasmine</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the princess and the frog!</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 17:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This could be because she&#039;s new.  If her movie is a flop then they will not want to include her with the six other princesses.  They have not yet had the time to design new merchandise with her included.

The princesses are also depicted as the first six: Snow White, Cinderella, Ariel, Belle, and Jasmine.  Pocahontas is also not included even though she is a princess in her own right (daughter of the chief).  So even if she&#039;s never included in the pictures of the six, it&#039;s simply because she did not make the cut off of the first six.  And yes, the first five are white, but when most of them were made it was for WASP America, which was the super majority of the country at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be because she&#8217;s new.  If her movie is a flop then they will not want to include her with the six other princesses.  They have not yet had the time to design new merchandise with her included.</p>
<p>The princesses are also depicted as the first six: Snow White, Cinderella, Ariel, Belle, and Jasmine.  Pocahontas is also not included even though she is a princess in her own right (daughter of the chief).  So even if she&#8217;s never included in the pictures of the six, it&#8217;s simply because she did not make the cut off of the first six.  And yes, the first five are white, but when most of them were made it was for WASP America, which was the super majority of the country at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the character is never defined as &quot;French&quot; - he&#039;s not defined as being from a particular country (or if he is, it&#039;s one that&#039;s fictional, as I recall) - he doesn&#039;t have a French accent, but rather a nebulous &quot;Foreign&quot; accent to go with his nebulously &quot;foreign&quot; appearance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the character is never defined as &#8220;French&#8221; &#8211; he&#8217;s not defined as being from a particular country (or if he is, it&#8217;s one that&#8217;s fictional, as I recall) &#8211; he doesn&#8217;t have a French accent, but rather a nebulous &#8220;Foreign&#8221; accent to go with his nebulously &#8220;foreign&#8221; appearance.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think ou nailed this movie on the head. I loved it and thought it was put together well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think ou nailed this movie on the head. I loved it and thought it was put together well!</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anyting to be said about the stereotype of the libidinous french &#039;frog&#039; character? I thought that was the most blatant stereotype, however, whether or not this is offensive to French brings up further issues of white privilege. I do think it is an interesting comparison seeing as we are talking about cultural stereotypes as well as issues of race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anyting to be said about the stereotype of the libidinous french &#8216;frog&#8217; character? I thought that was the most blatant stereotype, however, whether or not this is offensive to French brings up further issues of white privilege. I do think it is an interesting comparison seeing as we are talking about cultural stereotypes as well as issues of race.</p>
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		<title>By: Infoperson9000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infoperson9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnrIRIXjm6U

I found the original trailer, I believe.</description>
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<p>I found the original trailer, I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope to hell that the film is as good as you portray it because I would love, LOVE, to see more POCs as the main character in Disney movies.

Think of how many girls are out there who have waited for so long to have a princess who looks like them, in some way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope to hell that the film is as good as you portray it because I would love, LOVE, to see more POCs as the main character in Disney movies.</p>
<p>Think of how many girls are out there who have waited for so long to have a princess who looks like them, in some way.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AN ESSAY.
Sorry y&#039;all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AN ESSAY.<br />
Sorry y&#8217;all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the film last night. I have to say, I was concerned from the previews as well - but I think that Disney did an excellent job here, especially with their first black princess.
To address things point by point:

- The hot sauce thing: I&#039;ve never heard of liking hot sauce as being a black stereotype. Spicy sauces and peppers are integral to New Orleans cuisine, and the idea is that Tiana is a New Orleans girl through-and-through... which means enjoying the spicy food, and using spices heavily to augment her cooking.

- The voodoo thing: I already said this above somewhere, but I&#039;ll say it again - the film addresses both the dark side and the light side of Voodoo, both of which exist, as in any magic/k based religion. It&#039;s a lot like Buffy - in which witches were presented as being capable of good and capable of bad.

- The toothless firefly is a representation of a Cajun stereotype. What I loved about this is that the Cajun stereotype is presented (probably because people would not recognize a &quot;subtle&quot; Cajun, unfortunately) not as a backwoods hick, but as a strong, smart, resourceful character who fights off some serious bad guys on his own and is an extremely helpful guide - who just so happens to be missing teeth.

- This film appears to take place in the forties-ish - when racism was still extremely prevalent in society - and the racism is actually *really well* addressed. ***SPOILERISH*** Tiana tries to buy some property, but is turned down because a woman &quot;of her background&quot; should, essentially, remember her place. She gets upset at this and later those racist characters get a mild comeuppance (mild because it&#039;s Disney, so, you know.). ***SPOILERISH OVER***

- The parental race/gender roles: When I watched the movie, both parents seemed equally nurturing and inspirational, but I suspect that they get those labels because the mother is alive throughout the whole film - so she remains a nurturing force, while the father serves as an inspiring memory. I don&#039;t see anything particularly sexist or racist about this

- &quot;It&#039;s not in yo&#039; cards&quot;: the &quot;yo&#039;&quot; is addressing a Louisiana (New Orleans? Is it a particular accent in that area?) accent. All of the characters, with the exception of the prince and the valet, have the accent, regardless of race.

- The big butt: I was pretty weirded out by that scene when I initially saw it in trailers, too, but in context it makes sense and isn&#039;t racist at all. ***SPOILER*** The valet acquires a spell that transforms him into the prince. The spell starts to wear off, and the valet (who has a substantial rear end) starts to make a reappearance - starting first with an ear, and then with the butt. It&#039;s pretty much just a comical &quot;Look, his butt suddenly got really big!&quot; shot. ***SPOILER OVER***

- The &quot;initially a maid&quot; thing is not too dissimilar to the being a waitress thing - she could still be seen as stuck in a lower-class job, serving white people (also black people, but if we&#039;re focusing on the racist part). I think that the point is, she&#039;s starting from a super-downtrodden position, and trying to achieve a lofty dream. One could easily say that portraying a black person in a lower class position is racist - but it&#039;s integral to the typical Disney story, of rising from the lowest possible point a la Aladdin to the highest possible point.

- &quot;Black people playing jazz and dancing&quot;: the Jazz and dancing is, again, being portrayed as an integral part of New Orleans culture, not an integral part of being a black person. There are a lot of black characters, because (a)the main character is black and she has both black and white friends and family; and (b) there is a high concentration of black people in New Orleans - to paint New Orleans as being largely white would be pretty insensitive and would get a ton of criticism from the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the film last night. I have to say, I was concerned from the previews as well &#8211; but I think that Disney did an excellent job here, especially with their first black princess.<br />
To address things point by point:</p>
<p>- The hot sauce thing: I&#8217;ve never heard of liking hot sauce as being a black stereotype. Spicy sauces and peppers are integral to New Orleans cuisine, and the idea is that Tiana is a New Orleans girl through-and-through&#8230; which means enjoying the spicy food, and using spices heavily to augment her cooking.</p>
<p>- The voodoo thing: I already said this above somewhere, but I&#8217;ll say it again &#8211; the film addresses both the dark side and the light side of Voodoo, both of which exist, as in any magic/k based religion. It&#8217;s a lot like Buffy &#8211; in which witches were presented as being capable of good and capable of bad.</p>
<p>- The toothless firefly is a representation of a Cajun stereotype. What I loved about this is that the Cajun stereotype is presented (probably because people would not recognize a &#8220;subtle&#8221; Cajun, unfortunately) not as a backwoods hick, but as a strong, smart, resourceful character who fights off some serious bad guys on his own and is an extremely helpful guide &#8211; who just so happens to be missing teeth.</p>
<p>- This film appears to take place in the forties-ish &#8211; when racism was still extremely prevalent in society &#8211; and the racism is actually *really well* addressed. ***SPOILERISH*** Tiana tries to buy some property, but is turned down because a woman &#8220;of her background&#8221; should, essentially, remember her place. She gets upset at this and later those racist characters get a mild comeuppance (mild because it&#8217;s Disney, so, you know.). ***SPOILERISH OVER***</p>
<p>- The parental race/gender roles: When I watched the movie, both parents seemed equally nurturing and inspirational, but I suspect that they get those labels because the mother is alive throughout the whole film &#8211; so she remains a nurturing force, while the father serves as an inspiring memory. I don&#8217;t see anything particularly sexist or racist about this</p>
<p>- &#8220;It&#8217;s not in yo&#8217; cards&#8221;: the &#8220;yo&#8217;&#8221; is addressing a Louisiana (New Orleans? Is it a particular accent in that area?) accent. All of the characters, with the exception of the prince and the valet, have the accent, regardless of race.</p>
<p>- The big butt: I was pretty weirded out by that scene when I initially saw it in trailers, too, but in context it makes sense and isn&#8217;t racist at all. ***SPOILER*** The valet acquires a spell that transforms him into the prince. The spell starts to wear off, and the valet (who has a substantial rear end) starts to make a reappearance &#8211; starting first with an ear, and then with the butt. It&#8217;s pretty much just a comical &#8220;Look, his butt suddenly got really big!&#8221; shot. ***SPOILER OVER***</p>
<p>- The &#8220;initially a maid&#8221; thing is not too dissimilar to the being a waitress thing &#8211; she could still be seen as stuck in a lower-class job, serving white people (also black people, but if we&#8217;re focusing on the racist part). I think that the point is, she&#8217;s starting from a super-downtrodden position, and trying to achieve a lofty dream. One could easily say that portraying a black person in a lower class position is racist &#8211; but it&#8217;s integral to the typical Disney story, of rising from the lowest possible point a la Aladdin to the highest possible point.</p>
<p>- &#8220;Black people playing jazz and dancing&#8221;: the Jazz and dancing is, again, being portrayed as an integral part of New Orleans culture, not an integral part of being a black person. There are a lot of black characters, because (a)the main character is black and she has both black and white friends and family; and (b) there is a high concentration of black people in New Orleans &#8211; to paint New Orleans as being largely white would be pretty insensitive and would get a ton of criticism from the public.</p>
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