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By: amandaw

amandaw — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:07:40 +0000

P.S. I live in the south metro area of Pittsburgh, ten minutes from Bridgeville (where the shooting occurred) and have watched plenty of the coverage myself. There’s plenty of crap to go around. Don’t dish more out to people over whom you (presumably) hold power.

By: amandaw

amandaw — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:05:17 +0000

If George Sodini, a proven racist, had murdered African-Americans simply because of their race, would we be asking why George Sodini hated African-Americans? No, because what possible legitimate reason could he have? There isn’t one. He’s a racist asshole and that’s the end of it.

What?

No. No, no, no. Have you not been paying attention to, you know, the last almost-year in which racists have shown up in droves to criticize everything about the country that has changed since Bush left and that black guy took the oath of office — and all we hear is “the legitimate reasons” they have for discontent, and it’s blasphemy to use the r-word?

I hate the term “oppression olympics.” That’s not what this is. It’s just plain, pure privilege speaking.

This is why you never make these comparisons. Because you don’t know what your privilege is making you unable to see. So leave it alone. Make your case without using someone else’s struggles as a mere tool to prove your own — diminishing theirs in the process.

By: Circe

Circe — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:41:13 +0000

aix- Yeah, your comment is a little weird anyway. Men who are sexually frustrated do not rape, that is entirely a different crime.
Men who are married and having sex regularly or can find willing partners without much trouble are often rapists. Rape is not something men do out of desperation, rape is its own …fetish? (I know there’s a better word, but I can’t think of it right now.)
As you’ve often heard: Rape is about power and control. It has very little to do with sex, except sex is the vehicle FOR asserting dominance and wanting to diminish and demean the victim as much as possible.

Anyway, if you take his blog and remove all references to women (he doesn’t even use the word women- it’s pretty much all ho’s and sluts) and put in a different racial epithet, and then imagine that he killed 3 and shot 9 of that particular race…
Why would THAT suddenly seem like a hate crime, but this doesn’t qualify?

By: blue

blue — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:19:23 +0000

aix, it appears that you haven’t been following the conversation here or the larger story, because not only has it been explained in detail why this was a hate crime, but your comment “he should get punished for the rest of his life”? Sodini killed himself after murdering Gannon, Overmeier, and Billingsly. There is no “rest of his life”.
I wanted to thank the author for posting the victims’ pictures and names. I hadn’t seen them in any coverage, and I hated that I knew Sodini’s name and face, but not those of the women he killed. They need to be known, and remembered.

By: aix

aix — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:16:47 +0000

I’m not so sure that I would consider this a hate crime only because he did not hate women he just couldn’t find a woman that would put up with him. After seeing his picture I can’t say that he looks like someone that I would get along with. He looks like he could be an ass but most of all he looks like he could be very cocky and always try to impress everyone. I have seen people like this but not to the extent that they would kill anyone. After reading some of the things that he wrote I was quite appalled but I think it was more in frustration than hate. If he hated women so much he probably would have done something else like rape or molestation but the fact that he killed several women makes me think that he was severely depressed and frustrated. I am not defending him in any way and I believe that what he did was horrible and he should get punished for the rest of his life however I would not consider this a hate crime.

By: Philip Cohen

Philip Cohen — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:09:10 +0000

Of course, any devotedly unarmed person knows that running in circles is useless – serpentine! serpentine! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN1WxSITwWw)

By: Village Idiot

Village Idiot — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:00:48 +0000

So your idea would have had *multiple* people firing wildly in a dark room instead of just one. Stellar concept.

By *multiple* you mean two? If it’s dark, it’s still easy to see where the killer is when he fires his weapon since the muzzle flashes brightly with each shot; aim at that. A killer may be firing wildly, but someone else would be firing rather directly- at the killer.

Like everyone else, you have the inalienable right to just sit there and die if that’s what you prefer. Or maybe someone who has a gun could use you as cover. However, our right to defend ourselves is a little less clear and varies by jurisdiction, but I really can’t understand why people willfully disable themselves when it comes to using lethal force for self-defense, though it seems most who are opposed to concealed carry are ignorant of and fearful about firearms in general. For instance, criticizing possession of a firearm because in this instance the lights were turned off is ridiculous and shows a lack of any understanding of the dynamics of potentially lethal, violent encounters. Self defense is a game of probabilities, and a potential victim who has a gun has a higher probability of stopping a mass-murder spree than someone who just sits there, hides under a desk, or panics and runs in circles, even if the lights are off.

By: Andrea

Andrea — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:54:36 +0000

Geez, do you still not understand the definition of a hate crime? Like the other commenters said, but also another point. A hate crime is perpetrated in order to instill fear in a specific community, that can be defined by ethnicity, race, sexual orientation or gender etc. You kill someone because they belong to that community, but also in order to send a message to others of that same community that they too ought to be afraid. It’s not just simple hate perpetrated by one person on one other person. It’s aim is to create a total environment of fear.

By: Circe

Circe — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:34:50 +0000

Just a note- I spent waaaay too much time slogging through the hate-filled ravings of a PUA (pick up artist)site called “roissy”.
If you want to know where our next mass murderer will spring from, I don’t doubt he’s among the posters on this blog.
Perhaps the charmer who will only refer to women as c*nts? Or the one who sympathizes with another on the topic of killing “alpha males”- but believes killing women may be more effective… Perhaps even the editor, whose delightful asides sent chills up my spine.
These people are online and they’re making their views known- and it is some of the ugliest thinking I’ve ever encountered.
Perhaps I should be grateful that most of them aren’t given an opportunity to breed?
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/game-can-save-lives/