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		<title>By: &#124; Cakalak Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-244707</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; Cakalak Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Debate and skepticism are among the driving forces behind science; it would be wrong to do away with them. Michael Crichton, whose testimony before Congress disputed the reality of AGW, asked: “When did ‘skeptic’ become a dirty word in science? When did a skeptic require quotation marks around it?” But when it comes to the reality of AGW the available evidence points to consensus; the word Skeptic gets put into quotes in this context because skepticism is very different from disbelief in the face of overwhelming evidence, which is what is being advocated. This framing has an obvious effect: it ensures that the debate- the political and social one, not the scientific one- never ends; a debate that never ends need not be acted upon. The image it conjures in my mind is of a ‘skeptic’ facing down something very big, moving very fast, making angry noises, and refusing to take cover until it was completely settled whether this creature is a mountain lion or a velociraptor – or better yet, attempting to have a civil debate with the creature as it mauls the ‘skeptic’. Unfortunately, though AGW is big, fast, and angry, it is unlikely to target the ‘skeptics’ who have gotten rich delaying meaningful action, but the people of poor and developing countries. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Debate and skepticism are among the driving forces behind science; it would be wrong to do away with them. Michael Crichton, whose testimony before Congress disputed the reality of AGW, asked: “When did ‘skeptic’ become a dirty word in science? When did a skeptic require quotation marks around it?” But when it comes to the reality of AGW the available evidence points to consensus; the word Skeptic gets put into quotes in this context because skepticism is very different from disbelief in the face of overwhelming evidence, which is what is being advocated. This framing has an obvious effect: it ensures that the debate- the political and social one, not the scientific one- never ends; a debate that never ends need not be acted upon. The image it conjures in my mind is of a ‘skeptic’ facing down something very big, moving very fast, making angry noises, and refusing to take cover until it was completely settled whether this creature is a mountain lion or a velociraptor – or better yet, attempting to have a civil debate with the creature as it mauls the ‘skeptic’. Unfortunately, though AGW is big, fast, and angry, it is unlikely to target the ‘skeptics’ who have gotten rich delaying meaningful action, but the people of poor and developing countries. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: riaz</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-153883</link>
		<dc:creator>riaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global Warming will devastate crop yields in ountries near the equator

That may call for a separate warp map?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global Warming will devastate crop yields in ountries near the equator</p>
<p>That may call for a separate warp map?</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly (weekly) &#171; Southend-on-Sea in Transition</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-142047</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly (weekly) &#171; Southend-on-Sea in Transition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Global Warming: Causes And Effects&#8221; &#171; Mobilization for Climate Justice &#8211; London, Ontario</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-108754</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Global Warming: Causes And Effects&#8221; &#171; Mobilization for Climate Justice &#8211; London, Ontario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 23:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Warming: Causes And&#160;Effects&#8221;  2009 Leave a comment Go to comments    Lisa on the Sociological Images blog The two maps below are part of a series of maps that warp the size and shape of countries according [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Warming: Causes And&nbsp;Effects&#8221;  2009 Leave a comment Go to comments    Lisa on the Sociological Images blog The two maps below are part of a series of maps that warp the size and shape of countries according [...]</p>
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		<title>By: murray</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-92776</link>
		<dc:creator>murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....and human produced carbon is what % of total carbon released into the atmosphere? wonder what the mortality maps would look like if we stopped producing carbon tomorrow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..and human produced carbon is what % of total carbon released into the atmosphere? wonder what the mortality maps would look like if we stopped producing carbon tomorrow?</p>
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		<title>By: benrush</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-79280</link>
		<dc:creator>benrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did you get these maps?

Based on your links, they appear to come from worldmapper. But I can&#039;t find the exact same maps on their site.

I found a map very similar to &quot;A&quot; at http://www.worldmapper.org/display.php?selected=295, but it has subtle differences: look how much larger Japan is in worldmapper version, for instance. And on the worldmapper version, India is larger than Germany.

But the map you&#039;ve posted has no sources listed, so we can&#039;t compare the data.

And I can&#039;t find anything similar to map &quot;B&quot; on the worldmapper site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did you get these maps?</p>
<p>Based on your links, they appear to come from worldmapper. But I can&#8217;t find the exact same maps on their site.</p>
<p>I found a map very similar to &#8220;A&#8221; at <a href="http://www.worldmapper.org/display.php?selected=295" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldmapper.org/display.php?selected=295</a>, but it has subtle differences: look how much larger Japan is in worldmapper version, for instance. And on the worldmapper version, India is larger than Germany.</p>
<p>But the map you&#8217;ve posted has no sources listed, so we can&#8217;t compare the data.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t find anything similar to map &#8220;B&#8221; on the worldmapper site.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Unger</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-79151</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Unger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how much policy makers in various countries are looking at maps like these, and making decisions based on them?  Then again, I don&#039;t think most policy makers look at much of anything beyond a few years out, ten at most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how much policy makers in various countries are looking at maps like these, and making decisions based on them?  Then again, I don&#8217;t think most policy makers look at much of anything beyond a few years out, ten at most.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-78723</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty pictures of bad science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty pictures of bad science.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-71470</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about them? I&#039;ve never heard a lot about major industrialization and factories and such going on in Canada (anecdotal, I know) but I have heard that a lot about Eastern European countries. So why wouldn&#039;t it make sense that Canada has less carbon emissions than other countries with lots of factories?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about them? I&#8217;ve never heard a lot about major industrialization and factories and such going on in Canada (anecdotal, I know) but I have heard that a lot about Eastern European countries. So why wouldn&#8217;t it make sense that Canada has less carbon emissions than other countries with lots of factories?</p>
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		<title>By: Thaddeus</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-70823</link>
		<dc:creator>Thaddeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the Western European nations there compared to Canada?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the Western European nations there compared to Canada?</p>
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		<title>By: Quién paga el cambio climático</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-70815</link>
		<dc:creator>Quién paga el cambio climático</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Quién paga el cambio climáticothesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-... por Lordo hace pocos segundos [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Quién paga el cambio climáticothesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-&#8230; por Lordo hace pocos segundos [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-70692</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just a guess on my part, but I wouldn&#039;t be suprised if whoever created the map just deleted Hawaii from the first map because otherwise it would have ended up in the same place as the legend.

And seconding b&#039;s comment about population in the US vs Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a guess on my part, but I wouldn&#8217;t be suprised if whoever created the map just deleted Hawaii from the first map because otherwise it would have ended up in the same place as the legend.</p>
<p>And seconding b&#8217;s comment about population in the US vs Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-70138</link>
		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering that Canada&#039;s total population is only about 10% that of the US, it makes perfect sense that it would only be about 1/10 the size on the map, if you assume that the per capita rate of emissions is about the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that Canada&#8217;s total population is only about 10% that of the US, it makes perfect sense that it would only be about 1/10 the size on the map, if you assume that the per capita rate of emissions is about the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-70123</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Thaddeus</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/30/global-warming-causes-and-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-69984</link>
		<dc:creator>Thaddeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then where is Hawaii?
I&#039;m still having a hard time believing that Canada would be that small.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then where is Hawaii?<br />
I&#8217;m still having a hard time believing that Canada would be that small.</p>
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