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	<title>Comments on: Men And Non-Compliance With Patriarchy</title>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-344288</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan, ads are only tinged with enough humor to insulate them from ridicule for their ridiculous content. Look at the &quot;Axe Body Spray&quot; commercials...it&#039;s the same thing....SURE it&#039;s a joke, that&#039;s obvious...but subconsciously, the message guys leave with after watching those ads is &quot;chicks like axe body spray&quot;

ad execs aren&#039;t comedians....they aren&#039;t trying to make people laugh for the hell of it. they are trying to sell a product. they use humor to make their ridiculous f&#039;ing retarded marketing schemes appear more palatable. &quot;Eat Like An Alpha&quot;???? That just SOUNDS f&#039;ing stupid as hell! Just thinking about it frustrates me...jesus i don&#039;t even know why i&#039;m typing all this....it just really pisses me off....i used to like oh boy oberto...i don&#039;t even wanna buy their products anymore.....what a LAME excuse for a tag line....jesus]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, ads are only tinged with enough humor to insulate them from ridicule for their ridiculous content. Look at the &#8220;Axe Body Spray&#8221; commercials&#8230;it&#8217;s the same thing&#8230;.SURE it&#8217;s a joke, that&#8217;s obvious&#8230;but subconsciously, the message guys leave with after watching those ads is &#8220;chicks like axe body spray&#8221;</p>
<p>ad execs aren&#8217;t comedians&#8230;.they aren&#8217;t trying to make people laugh for the hell of it. they are trying to sell a product. they use humor to make their ridiculous f&#8217;ing retarded marketing schemes appear more palatable. &#8220;Eat Like An Alpha&#8221;???? That just SOUNDS f&#8217;ing stupid as hell! Just thinking about it frustrates me&#8230;jesus i don&#8217;t even know why i&#8217;m typing all this&#8230;.it just really pisses me off&#8230;.i used to like oh boy oberto&#8230;i don&#8217;t even wanna buy their products anymore&#8230;..what a LAME excuse for a tag line&#8230;.jesus</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-344285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, I&#039;m a guy and would probably be considered an Alpha male by most. I own a vending company and was doing some research on Oh Boy! Oberto products. When I searched for &quot;Oh Boy Oberto&quot; on Google, one of the first websites that popped up was www.eatlikeanalpha.com ....i thought, &quot;no way! that&#039;s the stupidest website name i&#039;ve ever seen...can&#039;t be them!&quot;....after looking around and finding nothing else, I realized, that&#039;s their site. 

Besides the fact that I couldn&#039;t get ANY useful information from it (do any of the links actually work?) the entire premise of the site was f&#039;ing RETARDED. I mean, I make fun of feminists and liberal hippy tree-huger types all the time for being too sensitive and vulnerable....but this site almost offended ME. Really? Serious? Eat like an &quot;alpha&quot;? WTF does that even mean?

Bottom line, this is the worst, most ridiculous &quot;marketing&quot; and corporate branding I&#039;ve ever seen from a mainstream company (possible from ANY company, and I&#039;ve seen some bad stuff)....I will be looking for a Jack Links or other distributor in my area and avoid carrying Oh Boy! Oberto products if at all possible.

What a joke! zget your heads out of your asses fellas! Joke&#039;s on you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I&#8217;m a guy and would probably be considered an Alpha male by most. I own a vending company and was doing some research on Oh Boy! Oberto products. When I searched for &#8220;Oh Boy Oberto&#8221; on Google, one of the first websites that popped up was <a href="http://www.eatlikeanalpha.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.eatlikeanalpha.com</a> &#8230;.i thought, &#8220;no way! that&#8217;s the stupidest website name i&#8217;ve ever seen&#8230;can&#8217;t be them!&#8221;&#8230;.after looking around and finding nothing else, I realized, that&#8217;s their site. </p>
<p>Besides the fact that I couldn&#8217;t get ANY useful information from it (do any of the links actually work?) the entire premise of the site was f&#8217;ing RETARDED. I mean, I make fun of feminists and liberal hippy tree-huger types all the time for being too sensitive and vulnerable&#8230;.but this site almost offended ME. Really? Serious? Eat like an &#8220;alpha&#8221;? WTF does that even mean?</p>
<p>Bottom line, this is the worst, most ridiculous &#8220;marketing&#8221; and corporate branding I&#8217;ve ever seen from a mainstream company (possible from ANY company, and I&#8217;ve seen some bad stuff)&#8230;.I will be looking for a Jack Links or other distributor in my area and avoid carrying Oh Boy! Oberto products if at all possible.</p>
<p>What a joke! zget your heads out of your asses fellas! Joke&#8217;s on you!</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;We&#8217;re Only Protecting Them From Themselves&#8221; &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-204221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;We&#8217;re Only Protecting Them From Themselves&#8221; &#187; Sociological Images]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Cosmo, and in advertising for McCoy Crisps, Hungry Man, Solo, Chevy, dog food, Miller beer, beef jerky, alcohol (see here, here, here and here), cell phones, and Dockers.  See also: &#8220;how to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Cosmo, and in advertising for McCoy Crisps, Hungry Man, Solo, Chevy, dog food, Miller beer, beef jerky, alcohol (see here, here, here and here), cell phones, and Dockers.  See also: &#8220;how to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-71714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a beekeeper, I can tell you that queen bee/bossy lady analogies are usually off base.  In reality, the queen bee lives to serve.  Though a special presence in the hive, she&#039;s not the decision maker.  Decisions are made by the workers acting collectively.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a beekeeper, I can tell you that queen bee/bossy lady analogies are usually off base.  In reality, the queen bee lives to serve.  Though a special presence in the hive, she&#8217;s not the decision maker.  Decisions are made by the workers acting collectively.</p>
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		<title>By: mjaybee</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-69220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mjaybee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Women are a majority in the U.S., and they freely elected our government officials.

Women are privileged when it comes to government largesse in the form of programs for healthcare and social services.

By next year, women will control the majority of wealth in the U.S.:

http://knowledge.allianz.com/en/globalissues/demographic_change/gender_diversity/women_money_us.html

Give up your old, tired, unsupported bigoted feminism.  The 70s are long gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women are a majority in the U.S., and they freely elected our government officials.</p>
<p>Women are privileged when it comes to government largesse in the form of programs for healthcare and social services.</p>
<p>By next year, women will control the majority of wealth in the U.S.:</p>
<p><a href="http://knowledge.allianz.com/en/globalissues/demographic_change/gender_diversity/women_money_us.html" rel="nofollow">http://knowledge.allianz.com/en/globalissues/demographic_change/gender_diversity/women_money_us.html</a></p>
<p>Give up your old, tired, unsupported bigoted feminism.  The 70s are long gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Original Will</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-69202</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Original Will]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There isn&#039;t really any discrimination against men. That&#039;s the whole point. Look around, men are still in charge.

And yes, it&#039;s just a beef jerky commercial. One amongst thousands and thousands and thousands of commercials with the same message.

I fail to see what having a life has to do with any of this. Evidently, it means closing your eyes to inequality and crying &quot;me too me too people are mean to me also!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t really any discrimination against men. That&#8217;s the whole point. Look around, men are still in charge.</p>
<p>And yes, it&#8217;s just a beef jerky commercial. One amongst thousands and thousands and thousands of commercials with the same message.</p>
<p>I fail to see what having a life has to do with any of this. Evidently, it means closing your eyes to inequality and crying &#8220;me too me too people are mean to me also!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt K</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-69054</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to wonder at the kind of people who come to a sociology blog just to insult sociologists...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder at the kind of people who come to a sociology blog just to insult sociologists&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mjaybee</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-68982</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mjaybee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The “misandry” comment was probably referring to the ways in which men are depicted as bumbling husbands in commercials and on sitcoms. Which, I agree with Original Will, isn’t hugely important most of the time.&quot;

I guess discrimination against men is not as important asdiscrimination against women.

And, yes, it&#039;s just a beef jerky commercial, sociology nerds.

Get a life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The “misandry” comment was probably referring to the ways in which men are depicted as bumbling husbands in commercials and on sitcoms. Which, I agree with Original Will, isn’t hugely important most of the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess discrimination against men is not as important asdiscrimination against women.</p>
<p>And, yes, it&#8217;s just a beef jerky commercial, sociology nerds.</p>
<p>Get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt K</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-68941</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;misandry&quot; comment was probably referring to the ways in which men are depicted as bumbling husbands in commercials and on sitcoms. Which, I agree with Original Will, isn&#039;t hugely important most of the time. That&#039;s something that bugs me about men&#039;s rights advocates, they complain about things like that when issues like the homophobia and sexism which make up so much of our dominant masculinity likely have far more of an effect on men and women.

And Dan, while maybe nobody goes into a shop looking for a tasty snack which will reinforce their self-image, ask yourself this. If there were two identical food products, one labeled &quot;manly&quot;, with images of cowboys etc., and the other in bright pink, with unicorns and so forth trotting across the packaging, which would an average man choose, operating under the constraints of a system in which he is taught one must constantly prove one&#039;s masculinity?

Nobody is saying that all guys are bad, or jerks, or whatever. Maybe we are questioning what &quot;dominant&quot; means though, and why it&#039;s so important to our current conception of masculinity that men be &quot;dominant&quot;, not just over women but over other men as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;misandry&#8221; comment was probably referring to the ways in which men are depicted as bumbling husbands in commercials and on sitcoms. Which, I agree with Original Will, isn&#8217;t hugely important most of the time. That&#8217;s something that bugs me about men&#8217;s rights advocates, they complain about things like that when issues like the homophobia and sexism which make up so much of our dominant masculinity likely have far more of an effect on men and women.</p>
<p>And Dan, while maybe nobody goes into a shop looking for a tasty snack which will reinforce their self-image, ask yourself this. If there were two identical food products, one labeled &#8220;manly&#8221;, with images of cowboys etc., and the other in bright pink, with unicorns and so forth trotting across the packaging, which would an average man choose, operating under the constraints of a system in which he is taught one must constantly prove one&#8217;s masculinity?</p>
<p>Nobody is saying that all guys are bad, or jerks, or whatever. Maybe we are questioning what &#8220;dominant&#8221; means though, and why it&#8217;s so important to our current conception of masculinity that men be &#8220;dominant&#8221;, not just over women but over other men as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Original Will</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-68917</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Original Will]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a patriarchy, discussion of misandry doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense because the presence of it does nothing to address or alter the underlying power structure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a patriarchy, discussion of misandry doesn&#8217;t make a whole lot of sense because the presence of it does nothing to address or alter the underlying power structure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-68856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you guys really think guys buy beef jerky because they think it will make them more manly?  The ad is meant to be funny. Guys give each other crap all the time.  Are you going to dissect and analyze the other ads that advocate &quot;Messing with Sasquatch&quot; now?  Maybe you can talk about cruelty to animals or point out the fact that sasquatch is a mythological creature.  I think just like how you are pointing out how these ads, society, etc, perpetuates this or that, in a sense a lot of people here are perpetuating a pretty stereotypical view of the &quot;Alpha&quot; male.  Not all &quot;dominant&quot; guys are jerks, egotistical, or insecure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you guys really think guys buy beef jerky because they think it will make them more manly?  The ad is meant to be funny. Guys give each other crap all the time.  Are you going to dissect and analyze the other ads that advocate &#8220;Messing with Sasquatch&#8221; now?  Maybe you can talk about cruelty to animals or point out the fact that sasquatch is a mythological creature.  I think just like how you are pointing out how these ads, society, etc, perpetuates this or that, in a sense a lot of people here are perpetuating a pretty stereotypical view of the &#8220;Alpha&#8221; male.  Not all &#8220;dominant&#8221; guys are jerks, egotistical, or insecure.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-68735</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fernando]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Many observers of animal behavior are brought up in and continue to live in that worldview, so they impose it on animals and the natural world. If you step outside of that worldview, what you find in the natural world is something entirely different.&quot;

I don&#039;t buy that. There are many examples of social animals estabilishing hierarchy inside their groups. There&#039;s the animal that gets to ear first, to pick his (yes &quot;his&quot;, because that&#039;s usually how it goes amongst mammals) mate, who has to protect himself from constant attacks, among many other things that indicate that inside a group, there&#039;s one animal, or a small group of privileged animals, that take the alpha role.

And that instinctual behavior probably applies to humans as well. I&#039;m not justifying any stupid behavior that results from this, nor I&#039;m saying that things should be like this. Just want to say that it makes no sense to deny how we were built think.

I mean, hierarchy and patriarchy are two things that are practically universal in humans, with a handful of exceptions that barely qualify as such.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many observers of animal behavior are brought up in and continue to live in that worldview, so they impose it on animals and the natural world. If you step outside of that worldview, what you find in the natural world is something entirely different.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy that. There are many examples of social animals estabilishing hierarchy inside their groups. There&#8217;s the animal that gets to ear first, to pick his (yes &#8220;his&#8221;, because that&#8217;s usually how it goes amongst mammals) mate, who has to protect himself from constant attacks, among many other things that indicate that inside a group, there&#8217;s one animal, or a small group of privileged animals, that take the alpha role.</p>
<p>And that instinctual behavior probably applies to humans as well. I&#8217;m not justifying any stupid behavior that results from this, nor I&#8217;m saying that things should be like this. Just want to say that it makes no sense to deny how we were built think.</p>
<p>I mean, hierarchy and patriarchy are two things that are practically universal in humans, with a handful of exceptions that barely qualify as such.</p>
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		<title>By: mjaybee</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-68267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mjaybee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not true.  

I think humanities and soft sciences majors should quit watching television.  They seem to be blind to the misandry rampant in most commercials and television sitcoms, and tend to focus on situations like this: overanalysis of a beef jerky commercial.

It&#039;s call confirmation bias.  Look it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true.  </p>
<p>I think humanities and soft sciences majors should quit watching television.  They seem to be blind to the misandry rampant in most commercials and television sitcoms, and tend to focus on situations like this: overanalysis of a beef jerky commercial.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s call confirmation bias.  Look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-67860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Misti
The print ad includes the line &quot;Tussles his hair&quot; in reference to the sidekick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Misti<br />
The print ad includes the line &#8220;Tussles his hair&#8221; in reference to the sidekick.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/27/men-and-non-compliance-with-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-67742</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is it that the &quot;alpha&quot; does everything he can to show off in every aspect except monetarily?  Wouldn&#039;t one of the best ways to show be to show how much money you make by always buying the first round, buying the shots, picking up the tab, buying the beef jerky?  Other than that, I&#039;d say the sidekick really gets the best deal.  He rides shotgun, so if the they get into an accident, it&#039;s not his fault, it&#039;s the alpha&#039;s.  The alpha picks the bar -- if the bar sucks, it&#039;s the alpha&#039;s fault.  The alpha picks the movie -- if the movie sucks, it&#039;s his fault.  The alpha cooks the steaks (while the sidekick just helps watch them) -- if they suck, it&#039;s his fault.  It&#039;s no wonder the sidekick enables the alpha&#039;s alcoholism -- he doesn&#039;t have to be responsible for anything!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that the &#8220;alpha&#8221; does everything he can to show off in every aspect except monetarily?  Wouldn&#8217;t one of the best ways to show be to show how much money you make by always buying the first round, buying the shots, picking up the tab, buying the beef jerky?  Other than that, I&#8217;d say the sidekick really gets the best deal.  He rides shotgun, so if the they get into an accident, it&#8217;s not his fault, it&#8217;s the alpha&#8217;s.  The alpha picks the bar &#8212; if the bar sucks, it&#8217;s the alpha&#8217;s fault.  The alpha picks the movie &#8212; if the movie sucks, it&#8217;s his fault.  The alpha cooks the steaks (while the sidekick just helps watch them) &#8212; if they suck, it&#8217;s his fault.  It&#8217;s no wonder the sidekick enables the alpha&#8217;s alcoholism &#8212; he doesn&#8217;t have to be responsible for anything!</p>
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