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	<title>Comments on: Vintage Happy-Go-Lucky Black Stereotype Movie Clip</title>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-06-26 at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-06-26 at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vintage Happy-Go-Lucky Black Stereotype Movie Clip » Sociological Images &quot;Of course, Spike Lee’s movie “Bamboozled” implied that this type of stereotypical Black-man-as-happy-man-child-entertainer trope is still alive and well. He’s been criticized for his portrayal, of course, but it’s food for thought.&quot; (tags: via:tobanb black africanamerican stereotypes) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Vintage Happy-Go-Lucky Black Stereotype Movie Clip » Sociological Images &quot;Of course, Spike Lee’s movie “Bamboozled” implied that this type of stereotypical Black-man-as-happy-man-child-entertainer trope is still alive and well. He’s been criticized for his portrayal, of course, but it’s food for thought.&quot; (tags: via:tobanb black africanamerican stereotypes) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
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		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s interesting to me is that the band consists of spoons, a washboard, a tin pan, a jug, a piano, and a kazoo or harmonica (that one&#039;s hard to see); but they&#039;ve overlaid it with something that might be Benny Goodman.  Minus the commentary, and with the original music, I think it&#039;d be a valuable artifact demonstrating some music &amp; dancing that hollywood didn&#039;t choreograph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s interesting to me is that the band consists of spoons, a washboard, a tin pan, a jug, a piano, and a kazoo or harmonica (that one&#8217;s hard to see); but they&#8217;ve overlaid it with something that might be Benny Goodman.  Minus the commentary, and with the original music, I think it&#8217;d be a valuable artifact demonstrating some music &amp; dancing that hollywood didn&#8217;t choreograph.</p>
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		<title>By: T B</title>
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		<dc:creator>T B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &#039;riff&#039; that comment from &quot;Campy-Go-Lucky&quot; -

Above all, I found this video noteworthy because it conveys how African-Americans have been assigned a &#039;natural&#039; musical &#039;essence&#039; for a long time now.  These days, people often imply that &#039;blacks&#039; have an &#039;innate&#039; capacity to be hip hoppers -- whereas the video presents a variation on that basic message about a musical &#039;nature.&#039;

As I&#039;m thinking about those essentialist notions (about &#039;black&#039; people, in this case), I mainly have in mind Said&#039;s concept of Orientalism -- which has a wider applicability to racism in general (particularly when that racism intersects with imperialism -- as with the British empire and India, for instance).  Obviously there is other relevant analysis out there, but I find Said&#039;s work exceptionally helpful.  In his book Culture and Imperialism he broadens out that earlier analysis of Orientalism; I think that book is under-appreciated.

Anyway, aside from the aforementioned links between music, ethnicity and racism -
I also found it noteworthy that the dark-skinned guys in the video were segregated -- as in contemporary ghettoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8216;riff&#8217; that comment from &#8220;Campy-Go-Lucky&#8221; -</p>
<p>Above all, I found this video noteworthy because it conveys how African-Americans have been assigned a &#8216;natural&#8217; musical &#8216;essence&#8217; for a long time now.  These days, people often imply that &#8216;blacks&#8217; have an &#8216;innate&#8217; capacity to be hip hoppers &#8212; whereas the video presents a variation on that basic message about a musical &#8216;nature.&#8217;</p>
<p>As I&#8217;m thinking about those essentialist notions (about &#8216;black&#8217; people, in this case), I mainly have in mind Said&#8217;s concept of Orientalism &#8212; which has a wider applicability to racism in general (particularly when that racism intersects with imperialism &#8212; as with the British empire and India, for instance).  Obviously there is other relevant analysis out there, but I find Said&#8217;s work exceptionally helpful.  In his book Culture and Imperialism he broadens out that earlier analysis of Orientalism; I think that book is under-appreciated.</p>
<p>Anyway, aside from the aforementioned links between music, ethnicity and racism -<br />
I also found it noteworthy that the dark-skinned guys in the video were segregated &#8212; as in contemporary ghettoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Campy-Go-Lucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Campy-Go-Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a similar tangent, what about that cultural meme in which white people can&#039;t dance, and black people have this natural inclination towards music and dance.  The old happy-go-lucky stereotype got turned on its head over time; now the insult is that white people are sort-of lame because they have a hard time grasping rhythm.  As a drummer, I have a lot of black people tell me that because I&#039;m white that I&#039;ll never be good, and that I should just quit.  I&#039;ve even had black people tell me that I&#039;m trying to be black becuase I play drums.

I&#039;m curious as to the percentage of African American men in the Conservation Corps.  When I see a Con-Corps van, there are rarely white men in it.  

And since a lot of Corps workers come from a city background, they are often disconnected from the natural environment they find themselves working in, often using cellphones, or blasting cd-players in campgrounds, as opposed to relishing the environment they find themselves in.  It&#039;s often &quot;just a job&quot;.

On the flip side, there seem to be less African Americans and a majority of whites in the actual Parks Department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a similar tangent, what about that cultural meme in which white people can&#8217;t dance, and black people have this natural inclination towards music and dance.  The old happy-go-lucky stereotype got turned on its head over time; now the insult is that white people are sort-of lame because they have a hard time grasping rhythm.  As a drummer, I have a lot of black people tell me that because I&#8217;m white that I&#8217;ll never be good, and that I should just quit.  I&#8217;ve even had black people tell me that I&#8217;m trying to be black becuase I play drums.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious as to the percentage of African American men in the Conservation Corps.  When I see a Con-Corps van, there are rarely white men in it.  </p>
<p>And since a lot of Corps workers come from a city background, they are often disconnected from the natural environment they find themselves working in, often using cellphones, or blasting cd-players in campgrounds, as opposed to relishing the environment they find themselves in.  It&#8217;s often &#8220;just a job&#8221;.</p>
<p>On the flip side, there seem to be less African Americans and a majority of whites in the actual Parks Department.</p>
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