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		<title>By: Moody</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/17/portraying-asian-people-as-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-134165</link>
		<dc:creator>Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they probably just filmed a bunch of different people against that white backdrop and those two sushi chefs or whatever stood out because of their garb and were selected to be in the final cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they probably just filmed a bunch of different people against that white backdrop and those two sushi chefs or whatever stood out because of their garb and were selected to be in the final cut.</p>
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		<title>By: Moody</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/17/portraying-asian-people-as-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-134161</link>
		<dc:creator>Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man! That would have been too hilarious if they had the black girl supporting fried chicken. I would have just died laughing from the political incorrectness of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man! That would have been too hilarious if they had the black girl supporting fried chicken. I would have just died laughing from the political incorrectness of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/17/portraying-asian-people-as-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-63989</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Elbu
A statement from the people behind the German campaign &quot;Studying in the Far East&quot; that you mention. For those who are not familiar with the project: it aims to attract more young people from western Germany to study in the eastern part of the country. Many teenagers in the west often still have a stereotypically negative notion of the east. So the idea is NOT to make eastern Germany more exotic as you guess. The campaign aims to reveal the absurdity of these stereotypes among young people - who were often born only after the end of the Cold War!

What does the campaign do? Yes, &quot;two Asian guys called “Gang” and “Dong” are the presenters and main characters&quot; both in several short films and an online gameshow / animated questionnaire that help users to find a suitable university in eastern Germany. The campaign uses well-known stereotypes about Asia in order to draw attention to less obvious stereotypes about eastern Germany. We want young people to re-think (or unthink^^) their notion of what is an exciting region in the heart of Europe with lots of excellent opportunities for studying and living. It only works if people recognise these stereotypes as such.

The feedback we get from young Germans with Asian origin and from young people in Japan is very encouraging. Anyway... we appreciate the fact that our &quot;academic&quot; campaign is discussed internationally, sociologically - and alongside Kentucky Fried Chicken, sorry: Kentucky Grilled Chicken! Any more thoughts on our approach?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Elbu<br />
A statement from the people behind the German campaign &#8220;Studying in the Far East&#8221; that you mention. For those who are not familiar with the project: it aims to attract more young people from western Germany to study in the eastern part of the country. Many teenagers in the west often still have a stereotypically negative notion of the east. So the idea is NOT to make eastern Germany more exotic as you guess. The campaign aims to reveal the absurdity of these stereotypes among young people &#8211; who were often born only after the end of the Cold War!</p>
<p>What does the campaign do? Yes, &#8220;two Asian guys called “Gang” and “Dong” are the presenters and main characters&#8221; both in several short films and an online gameshow / animated questionnaire that help users to find a suitable university in eastern Germany. The campaign uses well-known stereotypes about Asia in order to draw attention to less obvious stereotypes about eastern Germany. We want young people to re-think (or unthink^^) their notion of what is an exciting region in the heart of Europe with lots of excellent opportunities for studying and living. It only works if people recognise these stereotypes as such.</p>
<p>The feedback we get from young Germans with Asian origin and from young people in Japan is very encouraging. Anyway&#8230; we appreciate the fact that our &#8220;academic&#8221; campaign is discussed internationally, sociologically &#8211; and alongside Kentucky Fried Chicken, sorry: Kentucky Grilled Chicken! Any more thoughts on our approach?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do KFC and Sacha Baron Cohen&#039;s movies have to do with each other? It seems random to juxtapose them together like that. Maybe it&#039;s just me; my opinions differ completely on both of those subjects. 

I feel like &quot;Bruno&quot; and the extreme level of absurdity of the film makes it fair game. Cohen isn&#039;t being serious; it&#039;s not a statement about his feelings of gay people in Austria, he&#039;s just making uncomfortable situations happen to real people. 

Also, if you even knew what Bruno was about, it&#039;s less about race and more about homosexuality. Fact-checking is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do KFC and Sacha Baron Cohen&#8217;s movies have to do with each other? It seems random to juxtapose them together like that. Maybe it&#8217;s just me; my opinions differ completely on both of those subjects. </p>
<p>I feel like &#8220;Bruno&#8221; and the extreme level of absurdity of the film makes it fair game. Cohen isn&#8217;t being serious; it&#8217;s not a statement about his feelings of gay people in Austria, he&#8217;s just making uncomfortable situations happen to real people. </p>
<p>Also, if you even knew what Bruno was about, it&#8217;s less about race and more about homosexuality. Fact-checking is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/17/portraying-asian-people-as-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-62002</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was just asking. You seem a little defensive.&quot;

HA!  you seriously werent trying to offend with that comment?  cut the bullshit, dude.
im a sociology major.  im devoting the next several years of my life to studying sociology.  how am i not supposed to interpret that as an asshole comment?

and if you really dont understand what sociology is its not our job to educate you.  fucking google it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I was just asking. You seem a little defensive.&#8221;</p>
<p>HA!  you seriously werent trying to offend with that comment?  cut the bullshit, dude.<br />
im a sociology major.  im devoting the next several years of my life to studying sociology.  how am i not supposed to interpret that as an asshole comment?</p>
<p>and if you really dont understand what sociology is its not our job to educate you.  fucking google it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayezur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayezur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That... honestly came off to me more as a weird, bad attempt at mimicking Japanese slapstick.  Needs more table flipping, frankly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8230; honestly came off to me more as a weird, bad attempt at mimicking Japanese slapstick.  Needs more table flipping, frankly.</p>
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		<title>By: thewhatifgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>thewhatifgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if the actors are sushi chefs who acted this way without any outside influence, that doesn&#039;t necessarily make this a non-racist portrayal of Asian people.  It can still be racist in the context of American culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if the actors are sushi chefs who acted this way without any outside influence, that doesn&#8217;t necessarily make this a non-racist portrayal of Asian people.  It can still be racist in the context of American culture.</p>
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		<title>By: distance88</title>
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		<dc:creator>distance88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these gentlemen are, in fact, sushi chefs, that is a much more reasonable explanation--they (the ad makers) could have conceivably been going for the whole &#039;food&#039; tie-in.  It is a weird ad,  but that pretty much goes without saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these gentlemen are, in fact, sushi chefs, that is a much more reasonable explanation&#8211;they (the ad makers) could have conceivably been going for the whole &#8216;food&#8217; tie-in.  It is a weird ad,  but that pretty much goes without saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Jere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d think a blog ostensibly dedicated to sociological analysis would be a bit more aware.

As has already been stated, the &quot;asian&quot; men are sushi chefs (how could you not see that in the first second?!).

Also, there&#039;s a difference between &quot;racial&quot; and &quot;racist.&quot;

Maybe we could turn the tables: What kind of advert or message would this blog produce (in a :30 format) to appeal across multiple nationalities/ethnicities without being racist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think a blog ostensibly dedicated to sociological analysis would be a bit more aware.</p>
<p>As has already been stated, the &#8220;asian&#8221; men are sushi chefs (how could you not see that in the first second?!).</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;racial&#8221; and &#8220;racist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe we could turn the tables: What kind of advert or message would this blog produce (in a :30 format) to appeal across multiple nationalities/ethnicities without being racist?</p>
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		<title>By: MissK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MissK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these two Japanese chefs grew up in Japan, they are likely mimicking the style of commercials that are ubiquitous there. Which is to say, silly to ridiculous and lots of fun. I have no way of knowing, but it seemed very familiar to the style of ad there. 

As someone else suggested, maybe they&#039;re hoping to use the ad in Japan as well? The English is simple and could easily play in non-native English markets. 

Still doesn&#039;t do much for the American market...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these two Japanese chefs grew up in Japan, they are likely mimicking the style of commercials that are ubiquitous there. Which is to say, silly to ridiculous and lots of fun. I have no way of knowing, but it seemed very familiar to the style of ad there. </p>
<p>As someone else suggested, maybe they&#8217;re hoping to use the ad in Japan as well? The English is simple and could easily play in non-native English markets. </p>
<p>Still doesn&#8217;t do much for the American market&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the link, to the Asian American blog 8Asians: http://www.8asians.com/2009/06/01/kfc-vs-kgc-wtf/#disqus_thread

It is the second comment in the comment thread, by JamesVG3. 

I probably gave too much credit to the KFC folks because I hadn&#039;t recalled their exact response to JamesVG3&#039;s complaint. I apologize for any misinformation I may have given with the previous post I left here.

Reading it over again, the two Japanese men were sushi chefs and their outfits in the KFC commercial were their work outfits. So there&#039;s more context in that these were their own clothes, and possibly they are from Japan which would explain their accents (? It would be different to a degree if they were American born and raised, not sushi chefs, and were told by KFC to don those clothes and affect an accent just because they&#039;re ethnically Asian, just for this commercial).

Still, it does not absolve KFC from the fact that they may have insisted to the two chefs to wear their outfits, and the director of the commercial may have insisted that they act goofily to amp up a &quot;comedic&quot; factor. How much of the commercial were the two Japanese chefs&#039; true personalities, and how much was the direction and instruction of the people behind the camera?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link, to the Asian American blog 8Asians: <a href="http://www.8asians.com/2009/06/01/kfc-vs-kgc-wtf/#disqus_thread" rel="nofollow">http://www.8asians.com/2009/06/01/kfc-vs-kgc-wtf/#disqus_thread</a></p>
<p>It is the second comment in the comment thread, by JamesVG3. </p>
<p>I probably gave too much credit to the KFC folks because I hadn&#8217;t recalled their exact response to JamesVG3&#8242;s complaint. I apologize for any misinformation I may have given with the previous post I left here.</p>
<p>Reading it over again, the two Japanese men were sushi chefs and their outfits in the KFC commercial were their work outfits. So there&#8217;s more context in that these were their own clothes, and possibly they are from Japan which would explain their accents (? It would be different to a degree if they were American born and raised, not sushi chefs, and were told by KFC to don those clothes and affect an accent just because they&#8217;re ethnically Asian, just for this commercial).</p>
<p>Still, it does not absolve KFC from the fact that they may have insisted to the two chefs to wear their outfits, and the director of the commercial may have insisted that they act goofily to amp up a &#8220;comedic&#8221; factor. How much of the commercial were the two Japanese chefs&#8217; true personalities, and how much was the direction and instruction of the people behind the camera?</p>
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		<title>By: macon d</title>
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		<dc:creator>macon d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying to pin down this kind of racism too. &quot;Hipster racism&quot; might cover it, though the term might be more applicable to other specific kinds of &quot;ironic&quot; racism?

fwiw, as I noted in this post, the phrase has been attributed to Carmen Van Kerckhove:

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/02/act-like-racist-in-order-to-demonstrate.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to pin down this kind of racism too. &#8220;Hipster racism&#8221; might cover it, though the term might be more applicable to other specific kinds of &#8220;ironic&#8221; racism?</p>
<p>fwiw, as I noted in this post, the phrase has been attributed to Carmen Van Kerckhove:</p>
<p><a href="http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/02/act-like-racist-in-order-to-demonstrate.html" rel="nofollow">http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/02/act-like-racist-in-order-to-demonstrate.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher = troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher = troll.</p>
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		<title>By: grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hipster-racism&quot; is the perfect phrase. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hipster-racism&#8221; is the perfect phrase. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for not having a link at hand at just this moment, but after some blog digging I or someone else should be able to find the precise link-- in another blog&#039;s post about this KFC commercial, a commenter sent an email to the company and actually received a response. 

Apparently some of the people-- regardless of race-- featured in the KGC ads were actual chefs, and the two Asian men were Japanese chefs (hibachi maybe?) who showed up to the filming in their work outfits (which obviously look inexplicably outlandish within a KFC commercial). The response stated they were not asked to do so, but just showed up like that. The producers/crew thought it was fine and they filmed the Japanese chefs in the clothes they came in. 

That obviously doesn&#039;t make the ads less stupid, but if KFC&#039;s response is to be believed, it&#039;s not the same as KFC saying, &quot;Hey, you two random Asian dudes-- make sure to dress up in funny &#039;Oriental&#039; clothes when you show up for filming.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for not having a link at hand at just this moment, but after some blog digging I or someone else should be able to find the precise link&#8211; in another blog&#8217;s post about this KFC commercial, a commenter sent an email to the company and actually received a response. </p>
<p>Apparently some of the people&#8211; regardless of race&#8211; featured in the KGC ads were actual chefs, and the two Asian men were Japanese chefs (hibachi maybe?) who showed up to the filming in their work outfits (which obviously look inexplicably outlandish within a KFC commercial). The response stated they were not asked to do so, but just showed up like that. The producers/crew thought it was fine and they filmed the Japanese chefs in the clothes they came in. </p>
<p>That obviously doesn&#8217;t make the ads less stupid, but if KFC&#8217;s response is to be believed, it&#8217;s not the same as KFC saying, &#8220;Hey, you two random Asian dudes&#8211; make sure to dress up in funny &#8216;Oriental&#8217; clothes when you show up for filming.&#8221;</p>
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