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	<title>Comments on: Dear Ladies: Don&#8217;t Die, &#8216;Cause Then Who Would We Look At?</title>
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		<title>By: Alex Odell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Odell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Women these days are equal/even stronger than men, but they still make 30% less on average than males, and a woman&#039;s worth is first and foremost her appearance, how sexy she is. So yes, women ARE still being seen as objects, and if you turned on the tv for ten minutes or looked at a magazine you&#039;d see that little has changed when it comes to how our culture values females.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women these days are equal/even stronger than men, but they still make 30% less on average than males, and a woman&#8217;s worth is first and foremost her appearance, how sexy she is. So yes, women ARE still being seen as objects, and if you turned on the tv for ten minutes or looked at a magazine you&#8217;d see that little has changed when it comes to how our culture values females.</p>
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		<title>By: Eco Retro Jewelry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eco Retro Jewelry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess there&#039;s something wrong with me cause I think he&#039;s kinda cute, probably because his body is very much like my boyfriends:)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess there&#8217;s something wrong with me cause I think he&#8217;s kinda cute, probably because his body is very much like my boyfriends:)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with this idea.  What immediately strikes me about the add is the reinforcement of the concept that the female form is attractive, pleasant to look upon, and an appropriate subject for art, and the male body is disgusting, gross, and completely laughable as a potential subject for an artistic piece.

Its a pretty well ingrained sentiment.  That is to say that if a women showed her body in public the expected reaction would be for people to stare, ogle, and start filming with their smart phones.  And for a man who did the same the expected result would be for women to shriek in horror, men to vomit, and someone to call the cops.

The potential psychological effect that on a person of going through their whole life with the idea that they inhabit a body that can never be considered sexy or attractive or appealing to look at is something I wish could be examined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this idea.  What immediately strikes me about the add is the reinforcement of the concept that the female form is attractive, pleasant to look upon, and an appropriate subject for art, and the male body is disgusting, gross, and completely laughable as a potential subject for an artistic piece.</p>
<p>Its a pretty well ingrained sentiment.  That is to say that if a women showed her body in public the expected reaction would be for people to stare, ogle, and start filming with their smart phones.  And for a man who did the same the expected result would be for women to shriek in horror, men to vomit, and someone to call the cops.</p>
<p>The potential psychological effect that on a person of going through their whole life with the idea that they inhabit a body that can never be considered sexy or attractive or appealing to look at is something I wish could be examined.</p>
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		<title>By: Boobies Against Breast Cancer &#187; Sociological Images</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boobies Against Breast Cancer &#187; Sociological Images]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] breast cancer marketing posts here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] breast cancer marketing posts here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Finally A Women&#8217;s Movement Men Can Get Behind &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/16/dear-the-ladies-dont-die-cause-then-who-would-we-look-at/comment-page-1/#comment-163771</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finally A Women&#8217;s Movement Men Can Get Behind &#187; Sociological Images]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] suppose this is exactly where pink ribbon feminism has been headed: men and women, finally together, in celebration of women&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] suppose this is exactly where pink ribbon feminism has been headed: men and women, finally together, in celebration of women&#8217;s [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: bane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MissPrism hit the point exactly. Pap smears aren&#039;t good because they&#039;ll save your life, they&#039;re good because then men will be able to look at your boobies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MissPrism hit the point exactly. Pap smears aren&#8217;t good because they&#8217;ll save your life, they&#8217;re good because then men will be able to look at your boobies.</p>
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		<title>By: What Does &#8220;Lust&#8221; Look Like? &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/16/dear-the-ladies-dont-die-cause-then-who-would-we-look-at/comment-page-1/#comment-97844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Does &#8220;Lust&#8221; Look Like? &#187; Sociological Images]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] we are presented with a female object of desire. Three choice posts on the topic can be found here, here, and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] we are presented with a female object of desire. Three choice posts on the topic can be found here, here, and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: nix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow, now that&#039;s what i call a transphobic, misogynist, gender policing advertisement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, now that&#8217;s what i call a transphobic, misogynist, gender policing advertisement.</p>
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		<title>By: MsMagoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MsMagoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Annebonannie: I think you&#039;re right. The more problematic assumption is that people who are overweight are represented as laughable and unhealthy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Annebonannie: I think you&#8217;re right. The more problematic assumption is that people who are overweight are represented as laughable and unhealthy.</p>
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		<title>By: MsMagoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MsMagoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen this ad and thought it was rather clever, actually. Everyone in this thread seems to remember this ad quite vividly and that is the point of this campaign. When we have women&#039;s issues as serious as cervical cancer and women are still not getting regular paps, the message about screening needs to be memorable and effective. While it may be problematic that a less positive representation of female beauty was used (eg. &quot;Joe from Jersey&quot; as a parody vs. the original, which would have been fine), would we be saying the same thing if this was an image of a masculinized Mona Lisa, fully clothed? I don&#039;t think the ad claims that only beautiful women are worth being saved as much as it claims that all women are beautiful since this condition concerns all women. Also, let&#039;s consider the intended audience (this is probably not in a man&#039;s washroom, I assume)- the unattractive man then becomes the punchline to this &quot;joke&quot; advertised to women in hopes of grabbing their attention.

@Cute Bruiser: Yes, Rosie the Riveter would have been another great image to use but I feel like it&#039;s been re-appropriated so many times that it doesn&#039;t pack as much of a punch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen this ad and thought it was rather clever, actually. Everyone in this thread seems to remember this ad quite vividly and that is the point of this campaign. When we have women&#8217;s issues as serious as cervical cancer and women are still not getting regular paps, the message about screening needs to be memorable and effective. While it may be problematic that a less positive representation of female beauty was used (eg. &#8220;Joe from Jersey&#8221; as a parody vs. the original, which would have been fine), would we be saying the same thing if this was an image of a masculinized Mona Lisa, fully clothed? I don&#8217;t think the ad claims that only beautiful women are worth being saved as much as it claims that all women are beautiful since this condition concerns all women. Also, let&#8217;s consider the intended audience (this is probably not in a man&#8217;s washroom, I assume)- the unattractive man then becomes the punchline to this &#8220;joke&#8221; advertised to women in hopes of grabbing their attention.</p>
<p>@Cute Bruiser: Yes, Rosie the Riveter would have been another great image to use but I feel like it&#8217;s been re-appropriated so many times that it doesn&#8217;t pack as much of a punch.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sabine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where are these ads displayed? 
I live in Vancouver and I&#039;ve yet to see them. 
Actually, I work in a doctor&#039;s office where we often display posters from the BCCA about Paps and mammograms and PSA tests, etc. If they sent us a poster like this, I would not put it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are these ads displayed?<br />
I live in Vancouver and I&#8217;ve yet to see them.<br />
Actually, I work in a doctor&#8217;s office where we often display posters from the BCCA about Paps and mammograms and PSA tests, etc. If they sent us a poster like this, I would not put it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a heterosexual woman, and I do find this guy nice and attractive. 

Which seem to mean, that I&#039;m a PERVERT.
:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a heterosexual woman, and I do find this guy nice and attractive. </p>
<p>Which seem to mean, that I&#8217;m a PERVERT.<br />
:)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m bothered by how comments directed at an ad that clearly indicates; &quot;women beautiful, men ugly&quot; focus solely on the objectification of women; when men are objectified as well, and in a more negative context.

If an add was placed indicating that we need to save men, because otherwise we&#039;d be left with only women to make money; would you feel more insulted for the men or the women?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m bothered by how comments directed at an ad that clearly indicates; &#8220;women beautiful, men ugly&#8221; focus solely on the objectification of women; when men are objectified as well, and in a more negative context.</p>
<p>If an add was placed indicating that we need to save men, because otherwise we&#8217;d be left with only women to make money; would you feel more insulted for the men or the women?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Van</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris in Van]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as a 25 year old gay man! I&#039;m a little shocked that everyone on here is looking so far past the point of the ad. Stop and admire the comical side of it and don&#039;t judge the image. Yes the ad clearly has a half naked man and YES he isn’t pretty, don’t you think that was done intentionally?

I feel that the unflattering man symbolizes that if women don&#039;t get pap tests then we&#039;ll be missing the most beautiful thing in the world and that’s all of you! WOMEN!!!

And Lisa stop labeling yourselves (women) as objects because in this day in age the only people in NORTH AMERICA who considering women as objects are you. I don&#039;t see women protesting and commenting on the Underwear ads of Calvin Klein, where men are an object? I also don&#039;t see how diet pills and skinny women have anything to do with BC cancer. I didn&#039;t know proper dieting these days is considered cancer!!

I don&#039;t know much about marketing but you can see that a lot of thought was put into this ad to make sure they don&#039;t degrade women and hurt the feelings of people like you. But because you cant find any real fault with it, a negative interpretation of to this ad came through. 

I&#039;m not trying to poke harm to the women’s rights but sometimes its just ridiculous. I feel that women these days are equal or even stronger then men which makes me proud of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a 25 year old gay man! I&#8217;m a little shocked that everyone on here is looking so far past the point of the ad. Stop and admire the comical side of it and don&#8217;t judge the image. Yes the ad clearly has a half naked man and YES he isn’t pretty, don’t you think that was done intentionally?</p>
<p>I feel that the unflattering man symbolizes that if women don&#8217;t get pap tests then we&#8217;ll be missing the most beautiful thing in the world and that’s all of you! WOMEN!!!</p>
<p>And Lisa stop labeling yourselves (women) as objects because in this day in age the only people in NORTH AMERICA who considering women as objects are you. I don&#8217;t see women protesting and commenting on the Underwear ads of Calvin Klein, where men are an object? I also don&#8217;t see how diet pills and skinny women have anything to do with BC cancer. I didn&#8217;t know proper dieting these days is considered cancer!!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about marketing but you can see that a lot of thought was put into this ad to make sure they don&#8217;t degrade women and hurt the feelings of people like you. But because you cant find any real fault with it, a negative interpretation of to this ad came through. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to poke harm to the women’s rights but sometimes its just ridiculous. I feel that women these days are equal or even stronger then men which makes me proud of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Elena</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elena]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(By the way, it is interesting that the iconography of Eros/ Cupid has changed from an attractive young man with wings in classical times to the sexless infant Cupid of today)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(By the way, it is interesting that the iconography of Eros/ Cupid has changed from an attractive young man with wings in classical times to the sexless infant Cupid of today)</p>
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