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		<title>By: K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christians frighten me more and more these days.</description>
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		<title>By: Hivin torjunta etenee, synnytyksille ei juuri mitään tehtävissä &#171; Vasen käsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hivin torjunta etenee, synnytyksille ei juuri mitään tehtävissä &#171; Vasen käsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on who you ask and who is lining their pockets.</description>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen sister.</description>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one who is choosing to abort believes they are killing a baby.  And the law is in agreement.  You can believe they are.  Heck, you can believe in unicorns if you want, too.  But you have no right legally or morally to invoke your belief system into a woman&#039;s personal decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one who is choosing to abort believes they are killing a baby.  And the law is in agreement.  You can believe they are.  Heck, you can believe in unicorns if you want, too.  But you have no right legally or morally to invoke your belief system into a woman&#8217;s personal decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is not will she or won&#039;t she &quot;kill&quot; a little human being - that has been addressed.  It&#039;s called murder, it&#039;s illegal, and no one will support (save for some pro death penalty people.)  The question is will she or won&#039;t she be allowed to make the choice for her own body under the safest and best circumstances possible.  

There&#039;s no such thing as a &quot;radical pro-abortionist.&quot;  No one is out there saying &quot;Yehhh, abortion is fun!&quot;  This is as ridiculous a twist on words as it is to call anti-abortionists &quot;pro-life&quot; as though they have the corner in this market.  Furthermore that you argue pro-choicers are debating embryologists is not only laughable, it illustrates exactly how little interaction with the scientific community you must have.

Abortion resembles less the removal of a cyst and more the removal of a parasite or even a tumor.  And no biology text refers to it as a &quot;human being.&quot;  Your use of the term &quot;human being&quot; is meant to be emotional.  As a biology major I can assure you this term is rarely (if at all) tossed around.  Human blastocyst perhaps, if trying to differentiate from other types of blastocysts.  If not differentiating, then simply blastocyst (or embryo or zygote, etc.)  Also it would never ever be referred to as a &quot;little human being.&quot;  You&#039;re simply trying to invoke your morality into the realm of science here, and you&#039;re failing.  

Your post is nothing but semantics.  Anyone with any critical analysis ability can see through it like a window.  You make no valid argument in your so-called &quot;pro-life&quot; stance and attempting to use science zaps your credibility even lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is not will she or won&#8217;t she &#8220;kill&#8221; a little human being &#8211; that has been addressed.  It&#8217;s called murder, it&#8217;s illegal, and no one will support (save for some pro death penalty people.)  The question is will she or won&#8217;t she be allowed to make the choice for her own body under the safest and best circumstances possible.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no such thing as a &#8220;radical pro-abortionist.&#8221;  No one is out there saying &#8220;Yehhh, abortion is fun!&#8221;  This is as ridiculous a twist on words as it is to call anti-abortionists &#8220;pro-life&#8221; as though they have the corner in this market.  Furthermore that you argue pro-choicers are debating embryologists is not only laughable, it illustrates exactly how little interaction with the scientific community you must have.</p>
<p>Abortion resembles less the removal of a cyst and more the removal of a parasite or even a tumor.  And no biology text refers to it as a &#8220;human being.&#8221;  Your use of the term &#8220;human being&#8221; is meant to be emotional.  As a biology major I can assure you this term is rarely (if at all) tossed around.  Human blastocyst perhaps, if trying to differentiate from other types of blastocysts.  If not differentiating, then simply blastocyst (or embryo or zygote, etc.)  Also it would never ever be referred to as a &#8220;little human being.&#8221;  You&#8217;re simply trying to invoke your morality into the realm of science here, and you&#8217;re failing.  </p>
<p>Your post is nothing but semantics.  Anyone with any critical analysis ability can see through it like a window.  You make no valid argument in your so-called &#8220;pro-life&#8221; stance and attempting to use science zaps your credibility even lower.</p>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well-put</description>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoa!  That was harsh, and your opinion.  Visit KlanParenthood.com and explain to me why PP wants to kill mostly poor/ethnic/black babies.  I&#039;m a rich white woman, I have all the choice I want, I always will, even if they make it illegal and dangerous again.
Most poor women are afraid they can&#039;t feed/care for an infant, not that they could look a little infant in the face, (via ultrasound) and then kill it.  Real choice means INFORMATION.  Don&#039;t keep us in the dark.  Give us the right to know stages of development, give us REAL options, (Hell even sedated delivery where I never see a kid, if I want to give it life but not keep it), and then let nature take it&#039;s course.  The numbers of abortion will go down, without changing the law.  That&#039;s what PP is afraid of. That&#039;s why the lies and cover ups.  You&#039;re entitled to your opinion, and in the face of that, I say, &quot;Fine.&quot;  But you&#039;re fairly unique.  Most people will eventually have a baby, and realize then that they killed one, and have remorse.   If they knew that what they killed had their earlobes or long toes at the time, then they made an informed choice.  Ultrasounds arent that expensive.  PP just doesn&#039;t want to lose business, and that&#039;s dishonest.  I don&#039;t trust PP with MY body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa!  That was harsh, and your opinion.  Visit KlanParenthood.com and explain to me why PP wants to kill mostly poor/ethnic/black babies.  I&#8217;m a rich white woman, I have all the choice I want, I always will, even if they make it illegal and dangerous again.<br />
Most poor women are afraid they can&#8217;t feed/care for an infant, not that they could look a little infant in the face, (via ultrasound) and then kill it.  Real choice means INFORMATION.  Don&#8217;t keep us in the dark.  Give us the right to know stages of development, give us REAL options, (Hell even sedated delivery where I never see a kid, if I want to give it life but not keep it), and then let nature take it&#8217;s course.  The numbers of abortion will go down, without changing the law.  That&#8217;s what PP is afraid of. That&#8217;s why the lies and cover ups.  You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion, and in the face of that, I say, &#8220;Fine.&#8221;  But you&#8217;re fairly unique.  Most people will eventually have a baby, and realize then that they killed one, and have remorse.   If they knew that what they killed had their earlobes or long toes at the time, then they made an informed choice.  Ultrasounds arent that expensive.  PP just doesn&#8217;t want to lose business, and that&#8217;s dishonest.  I don&#8217;t trust PP with MY body.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are the sociological and psychological effects of abortion?</description>
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		<title>By: veeMachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>veeMachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In responce to the second last...

Empathy is understanding and appreciation for the feelings of others. Foetuses don&#039;t have feelings.</description>
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<p>Empathy is understanding and appreciation for the feelings of others. Foetuses don&#8217;t have feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: Sociological Images &#187; Motherhood As Women&#8217;s &#8220;Most Sacred Birthright&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sociological Images &#187; Motherhood As Women&#8217;s &#8220;Most Sacred Birthright&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cuts off the pregnant mother&#8217;s head, turning her into a faceless baby incubator (like in these editorial cartoons and not unrelated to this photography).  Ryan writes: &#8220;It&#8217;s clear what&#8217;s most [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just &quot;unwanted&quot; pregnancies. My mother&#039;s neighbor had been trying for years to get pregnant again, and last week she had to have an abortion because it was ectopic and would have killed her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just &#8220;unwanted&#8221; pregnancies. My mother&#8217;s neighbor had been trying for years to get pregnant again, and last week she had to have an abortion because it was ectopic and would have killed her.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the Obama one to be sick. Since when has Obama expressed support for forced abortions? Same with the so-called &quot;pro-choicer&quot; screaming through the megaphone. When will people understand that we are pro-CHOICE? If the law tries to force a woman to get an abortion, we would fight for her right NOT to get the abortion, just as much as we fight for the right TO get an abortion.

One thing I don&#039;t understand about pro-lifers... There are hundreds of thousands of children in this world, who live in war and poverty, and who die of starvation, war, and preventable diseases every day. If pro-lifers care so much about children, why don&#039;t they try helping the kids who are already here before whining about ones who can&#039;t even feel or think or comprehend it&#039;s own existence yet? Innocent civilians tend to be killed in wars, and many of them are children.

To Annie: Agreed. If a born person, we&#039;ll call Person B, no matter the age, baby, child, or adult, had to be attatched to Person A in order to survive, in a parasitic matter, meaning Person B would benefit at the expensive of Person A, who would recieve health complications and such, Person A should decide if they want to help person B. Let&#039;s take the cases of organ donors and bone marrow. In the court case McFall v. Shimp, McFall needed a bone marrow transplant to survive. Shimp had a match but refused to give him the marrow. McFall sued, but lost, so Shimp did not have to give the marrow. There is a book called &quot;My Sister&#039;s Keeper&quot; (there&#039;s a movie coming out too), that, while fictional, does bring up issues about morals. Should a person be forced to give up a body organ to save someone else? I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the Obama one to be sick. Since when has Obama expressed support for forced abortions? Same with the so-called &#8220;pro-choicer&#8221; screaming through the megaphone. When will people understand that we are pro-CHOICE? If the law tries to force a woman to get an abortion, we would fight for her right NOT to get the abortion, just as much as we fight for the right TO get an abortion.</p>
<p>One thing I don&#8217;t understand about pro-lifers&#8230; There are hundreds of thousands of children in this world, who live in war and poverty, and who die of starvation, war, and preventable diseases every day. If pro-lifers care so much about children, why don&#8217;t they try helping the kids who are already here before whining about ones who can&#8217;t even feel or think or comprehend it&#8217;s own existence yet? Innocent civilians tend to be killed in wars, and many of them are children.</p>
<p>To Annie: Agreed. If a born person, we&#8217;ll call Person B, no matter the age, baby, child, or adult, had to be attatched to Person A in order to survive, in a parasitic matter, meaning Person B would benefit at the expensive of Person A, who would recieve health complications and such, Person A should decide if they want to help person B. Let&#8217;s take the cases of organ donors and bone marrow. In the court case McFall v. Shimp, McFall needed a bone marrow transplant to survive. Shimp had a match but refused to give him the marrow. McFall sued, but lost, so Shimp did not have to give the marrow. There is a book called &#8220;My Sister&#8217;s Keeper&#8221; (there&#8217;s a movie coming out too), that, while fictional, does bring up issues about morals. Should a person be forced to give up a body organ to save someone else? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus Christ. If it&#039;s in my body and I don&#039;t want it there, it doesn&#039;t matter if it&#039;s a blob of cells or a REAL LIVE BABY. Nothing and no one has the right to occupy my body without my consent. And no, having sex doesn&#039;t give a fertilized egg consent to implant in my uterus and grow. For the record, I believe that life begins at conception. I had an abortion and it was the best thing I could possibly have done for myself and my family. So get the heck away from my reproductive rights and mind your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus Christ. If it&#8217;s in my body and I don&#8217;t want it there, it doesn&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s a blob of cells or a REAL LIVE BABY. Nothing and no one has the right to occupy my body without my consent. And no, having sex doesn&#8217;t give a fertilized egg consent to implant in my uterus and grow. For the record, I believe that life begins at conception. I had an abortion and it was the best thing I could possibly have done for myself and my family. So get the heck away from my reproductive rights and mind your own.</p>
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		<title>By: sanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question, Kate.

I&#039;m surprised, though, that you seem surprised that women considering abortion are often terrified and not in a good place to make life-altering choices. Almost no one denies that. I didn&#039;t refer to all pregnant women, and it&#039;s odd that you would infer that I did. Probably an honest mistake, though.

If a woman is pregnant, her life is already altered. The question then becomes, will she bring the little human being in her womb all the way to term, or will she kill him (or her) because he/she is unwanted? This is biologically what happens if she chooses to terminate the pregnancy. In no way does it resemble removal of a cyst, unless you think people choose to have cysts the way they choose to have sex which results in pregnancy. And per every single textbook on embryology, the zygote/blastocyst/fetus/embryo is a human being (although embryologists have no scientific opinion on personhood). So it is simply a fact that the little human being dies, by design, during an abortion.

Radical pro-abortionists may jump up and down and scream that &quot;it&#039;s not a human being!&quot; but they&#039;re arguing against embryologists in addition to pro-lifers. That&#039;s just silly. The question remains whether all human beings deserve the life they already have or whether some should be destroyed because they&#039;re not wanted. Pro-life people simply believe that the choice to intentionally kill an innocent human being is always wrong. 

Point being, once that little human being is alive, the choice has been made. To allow or even worse, encourage, women to end this life is not something a functioning society does. It is a false solution to a real problem, and all who respect women should face the truth that abortion is destructive for mother, child and society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Kate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised, though, that you seem surprised that women considering abortion are often terrified and not in a good place to make life-altering choices. Almost no one denies that. I didn&#8217;t refer to all pregnant women, and it&#8217;s odd that you would infer that I did. Probably an honest mistake, though.</p>
<p>If a woman is pregnant, her life is already altered. The question then becomes, will she bring the little human being in her womb all the way to term, or will she kill him (or her) because he/she is unwanted? This is biologically what happens if she chooses to terminate the pregnancy. In no way does it resemble removal of a cyst, unless you think people choose to have cysts the way they choose to have sex which results in pregnancy. And per every single textbook on embryology, the zygote/blastocyst/fetus/embryo is a human being (although embryologists have no scientific opinion on personhood). So it is simply a fact that the little human being dies, by design, during an abortion.</p>
<p>Radical pro-abortionists may jump up and down and scream that &#8220;it&#8217;s not a human being!&#8221; but they&#8217;re arguing against embryologists in addition to pro-lifers. That&#8217;s just silly. The question remains whether all human beings deserve the life they already have or whether some should be destroyed because they&#8217;re not wanted. Pro-life people simply believe that the choice to intentionally kill an innocent human being is always wrong. </p>
<p>Point being, once that little human being is alive, the choice has been made. To allow or even worse, encourage, women to end this life is not something a functioning society does. It is a false solution to a real problem, and all who respect women should face the truth that abortion is destructive for mother, child and society.</p>
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