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	<title>Comments on: The Plunge: A Wedding Planning Website for Men</title>
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		<title>By: Rjjspesh</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-539624</link>
		<dc:creator>Rjjspesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also: olon, give us a break. This site was created for men who hate women by men who hate women. Let us call them jerks FFS 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: olon, give us a break. This site was created for men who hate women by men who hate women. Let us call them jerks FFS </p>
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		<title>By: Rjjspesh</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-539622</link>
		<dc:creator>Rjjspesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMFG the sexism... it burns :P Z goggles do nothing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMFG the sexism&#8230; it burns :P Z goggles do nothing. </p>
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		<title>By: olon</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-59849</link>
		<dc:creator>olon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you really believe that men are as horrific as the comments on this page portray them, then don&#039;t get married. Really, it&#039;s not that difficult.

    &quot;slowly drain the life out of her too&quot; &quot;sexist boys in general&quot; &quot;sexist behavior is manly and cool&quot; &quot;every dude needs a hot chick who&#039;ll fold his clothes&quot; &quot;apathetic idiot assholes&quot; &quot;misogyny coated excuse for men&quot; &quot;men pretend marriage doesn&#039;t benefit them&quot; &quot;douchebags&quot; &quot;masculinity is defined by the size of ones id&quot; &quot;the purchaser being the new husband&quot; &quot;misogynist jerks&quot;

    Wow, the hatred for men here! But all this scorn and derision directed at men kinda undercuts the criticism of the site&#039;s sexism does it not? I mean if you&#039;re entitled to this level of contempt and insult toward men, then...well I guess that&#039;s just the way it is here, right? 

    &quot;I got real lucky and found an actual mature adult male&quot; Really? Gee, &quot;an actual mature male&quot;! Miraculous! Unbelievable! Talk about sexism. Actually, I&#039;ve know quite a few mature males, and you may find this hard to believe, but I&#039;ve know quite a few immature females as well. Some of the anti-male comments here are rather on the grade school level unfortunately. 

    &quot;I do use the Knot (helpful for tracking RSVPs, but...&quot; LOL, it&#039;s okay you don&#039;t have to apologize for the Knot. But anyway yeah, all men are sexist jerks, immature douchebags who pretend to hate weddings when they actually love them, and who all have this ridiculous idea that having aesthetic taste is un-masculine, believe that women are for cleaning toilets, and on and on, their perfidy is unending. The hate, the hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you really believe that men are as horrific as the comments on this page portray them, then don&#8217;t get married. Really, it&#8217;s not that difficult.</p>
<p>    &#8220;slowly drain the life out of her too&#8221; &#8220;sexist boys in general&#8221; &#8220;sexist behavior is manly and cool&#8221; &#8220;every dude needs a hot chick who&#8217;ll fold his clothes&#8221; &#8220;apathetic idiot assholes&#8221; &#8220;misogyny coated excuse for men&#8221; &#8220;men pretend marriage doesn&#8217;t benefit them&#8221; &#8220;douchebags&#8221; &#8220;masculinity is defined by the size of ones id&#8221; &#8220;the purchaser being the new husband&#8221; &#8220;misogynist jerks&#8221;</p>
<p>    Wow, the hatred for men here! But all this scorn and derision directed at men kinda undercuts the criticism of the site&#8217;s sexism does it not? I mean if you&#8217;re entitled to this level of contempt and insult toward men, then&#8230;well I guess that&#8217;s just the way it is here, right? </p>
<p>    &#8220;I got real lucky and found an actual mature adult male&#8221; Really? Gee, &#8220;an actual mature male&#8221;! Miraculous! Unbelievable! Talk about sexism. Actually, I&#8217;ve know quite a few mature males, and you may find this hard to believe, but I&#8217;ve know quite a few immature females as well. Some of the anti-male comments here are rather on the grade school level unfortunately. </p>
<p>    &#8220;I do use the Knot (helpful for tracking RSVPs, but&#8230;&#8221; LOL, it&#8217;s okay you don&#8217;t have to apologize for the Knot. But anyway yeah, all men are sexist jerks, immature douchebags who pretend to hate weddings when they actually love them, and who all have this ridiculous idea that having aesthetic taste is un-masculine, believe that women are for cleaning toilets, and on and on, their perfidy is unending. The hate, the hate.</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-57452</link>
		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, it actually looks like they changed that name section, and it&#039;s actually a lot better: &quot;you love this woman for a reason, and part of the reason, we&#039;re guessing, is that she&#039;s intelligent and feisty and strong. A desire to keep her own name is part of the whole package; take the good with the bad. This doesn&#039;t mean that she doesn&#039;t love you or is embarrassed by you or secretly wants to abandon you; it means that she has a very, very strong sense of self, which is, well, sexy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, it actually looks like they changed that name section, and it&#8217;s actually a lot better: &#8220;you love this woman for a reason, and part of the reason, we&#8217;re guessing, is that she&#8217;s intelligent and feisty and strong. A desire to keep her own name is part of the whole package; take the good with the bad. This doesn&#8217;t mean that she doesn&#8217;t love you or is embarrassed by you or secretly wants to abandon you; it means that she has a very, very strong sense of self, which is, well, sexy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ulises</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-56451</link>
		<dc:creator>ulises</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm, i went to the website, and they actually changed the taking the guy&#039;s name part, and its much more aware and uh..sensitive? Yeah. So give them a little credit, that they bothered to actually listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm, i went to the website, and they actually changed the taking the guy&#8217;s name part, and its much more aware and uh..sensitive? Yeah. So give them a little credit, that they bothered to actually listen.</p>
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		<title>By: cath</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-52653</link>
		<dc:creator>cath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a artist, I think that its a ridiculous idea that having aesthetic taste is un-masculine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a artist, I think that its a ridiculous idea that having aesthetic taste is un-masculine.</p>
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		<title>By: allison</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-49142</link>
		<dc:creator>allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>horrifying.</description>
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		<title>By: Endor</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-48857</link>
		<dc:creator>Endor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;f you (the male audience of this site) believe that getting married will be the end of all fun and excitement, don’t get married. Really, it’s not that difficult.&quot;

Ah, but see, it&#039;s all just a game.  They (sexist boys in general) pretend they don&#039;t want to get married - that&#039;s its the death of their fun and freedom - so that they can get women to work that much harder to snag them.  Once in, women will work that much harder to keep it together.   And when they divorce, he&#039;ll get a new one and slowly drain the life out of her too. 

Though it may sound like i am anti-marriage, I&#039;m not. I&#039;m married, but I got real lucky and found a man - an actual mature adult male.  it sounds like the site in this post is for the other kind - the useless, lazy, first husbands type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;f you (the male audience of this site) believe that getting married will be the end of all fun and excitement, don’t get married. Really, it’s not that difficult.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, but see, it&#8217;s all just a game.  They (sexist boys in general) pretend they don&#8217;t want to get married &#8211; that&#8217;s its the death of their fun and freedom &#8211; so that they can get women to work that much harder to snag them.  Once in, women will work that much harder to keep it together.   And when they divorce, he&#8217;ll get a new one and slowly drain the life out of her too. </p>
<p>Though it may sound like i am anti-marriage, I&#8217;m not. I&#8217;m married, but I got real lucky and found a man &#8211; an actual mature adult male.  it sounds like the site in this post is for the other kind &#8211; the useless, lazy, first husbands type.</p>
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		<title>By: Endor</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-48855</link>
		<dc:creator>Endor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s so cute how men pretend marriage doesn’t benefit them in any way, and that they are “forced” to get hitched to women they can barely stand.

If your lady is a materialistic bitch of a princess, why are you marrying her? Oh right, every dude needs a hot chick who’ll fold his clothes and have his babies by age ____.&quot;

And clean his toilet. Because that&#039;s disgusting and what women are for. 

Sarah, I  am starting to think you can read my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s so cute how men pretend marriage doesn’t benefit them in any way, and that they are “forced” to get hitched to women they can barely stand.</p>
<p>If your lady is a materialistic bitch of a princess, why are you marrying her? Oh right, every dude needs a hot chick who’ll fold his clothes and have his babies by age ____.&#8221;</p>
<p>And clean his toilet. Because that&#8217;s disgusting and what women are for. </p>
<p>Sarah, I  am starting to think you can read my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: maatnofret</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-48248</link>
		<dc:creator>maatnofret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s really bleak. Wedding planning for douchebags, indeed. 

If you (the male audience of this site) believe that getting married will be the end of all fun and excitement, don&#039;t get married. Really, it&#039;s not that difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s really bleak. Wedding planning for douchebags, indeed. </p>
<p>If you (the male audience of this site) believe that getting married will be the end of all fun and excitement, don&#8217;t get married. Really, it&#8217;s not that difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Take The Plunge! &#171; The Gender Blender Blog</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-47704</link>
		<dc:creator>Take The Plunge! &#171; The Gender Blender Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The&#160;Plunge!  3 06 2009   There&#8217;s a recent post on Sociological Images about The Plunge, a wedding planning website for men.  The site reinforces [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The&nbsp;Plunge!  3 06 2009   There&#8217;s a recent post on Sociological Images about The Plunge, a wedding planning website for men.  The site reinforces [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-47580</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Portraying guys as apathetic idiot assholes undermines the men who are not these things, gives positive reinforcement to men who are, and encourages the men on the proverbial edge to think this kind of sexist behavior is &quot;manly&quot; and &quot;cool.&quot;

damn, I am officially depressed that The Plunge is actually a serious site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portraying guys as apathetic idiot assholes undermines the men who are not these things, gives positive reinforcement to men who are, and encourages the men on the proverbial edge to think this kind of sexist behavior is &#8220;manly&#8221; and &#8220;cool.&#8221;</p>
<p>damn, I am officially depressed that The Plunge is actually a serious site.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-47138</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this not a misogyny-coated excuse for men to read about weddings for three hours without the potential embarassment of someone catching them at it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this not a misogyny-coated excuse for men to read about weddings for three hours without the potential embarassment of someone catching them at it?</p>
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		<title>By: Natasha L</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-47051</link>
		<dc:creator>Natasha L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s funny to me about this is that my fiancee and I are being quite non-traditional with our wedding; we&#039;re doing it as we wish, and fairly cheaply.  I would love to see more books and sites aimed at grooms/men/etc, as well as more alternative websites.  I do use The Knot (helpful for tracking RSVPs, etc), but I also really like Offbeat Bride, which celebrates non-traditional weddings:  http://offbeatbride.com/

I also just read &quot;All Dressed in White: The Irresistible Rise of the American Wedding&quot; by Carol Wallace, which was a fascinating look at American wedding traditions and how many of them came to be.  When it comes to weddings, there is a need for far more voices and points of view to enter the conversation.  The creators of The Plunge have a right to their view, obviously, but it saddens me greatly, and I think it does a disservice to men and women, grooms and brides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s funny to me about this is that my fiancee and I are being quite non-traditional with our wedding; we&#8217;re doing it as we wish, and fairly cheaply.  I would love to see more books and sites aimed at grooms/men/etc, as well as more alternative websites.  I do use The Knot (helpful for tracking RSVPs, etc), but I also really like Offbeat Bride, which celebrates non-traditional weddings:  <a href="http://offbeatbride.com/" rel="nofollow">http://offbeatbride.com/</a></p>
<p>I also just read &#8220;All Dressed in White: The Irresistible Rise of the American Wedding&#8221; by Carol Wallace, which was a fascinating look at American wedding traditions and how many of them came to be.  When it comes to weddings, there is a need for far more voices and points of view to enter the conversation.  The creators of The Plunge have a right to their view, obviously, but it saddens me greatly, and I think it does a disservice to men and women, grooms and brides.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/06/01/9388/comment-page-1/#comment-47023</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s at least as sexist as some of the female-geared wedding-planning books my fiancee has been reading. I think the whole of the wedding planning literature is offensively sexist, and I think equally as many men would be outraged if they would read it, but unfortunately there&#039;s so few guides and planners out there that attempt to plan a wedding as a partnership (really an irony in my opinion) without delving into blatant sexism. 

But I think as long as you can take both with a grain of salt, and respect that many men might be assured by the &quot;maxim magazine&quot; tone of that site as women are as assured by the &quot;cosmo tone&quot; of female wedding planning literature. Sexist? certainly, but also useful in their own ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s at least as sexist as some of the female-geared wedding-planning books my fiancee has been reading. I think the whole of the wedding planning literature is offensively sexist, and I think equally as many men would be outraged if they would read it, but unfortunately there&#8217;s so few guides and planners out there that attempt to plan a wedding as a partnership (really an irony in my opinion) without delving into blatant sexism. </p>
<p>But I think as long as you can take both with a grain of salt, and respect that many men might be assured by the &#8220;maxim magazine&#8221; tone of that site as women are as assured by the &#8220;cosmo tone&#8221; of female wedding planning literature. Sexist? certainly, but also useful in their own ways.</p>
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