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		<title>By: AndrewS</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-536461</link>
		<dc:creator>AndrewS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t find the blog until later, but just saw the link back to this.

Personally, I&#039;m glad products can be used to shave the balls.  It sure beats the old electric razor my dad gave me when I was 15.  Without any pressure from anyone (this was also mostly pre-internet too), I&#039;ve always hated the hair down there.

So while companies will try to sell us anything for anything, there are some of us who are really the original customers :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t find the blog until later, but just saw the link back to this.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m glad products can be used to shave the balls.  It sure beats the old electric razor my dad gave me when I was 15.  Without any pressure from anyone (this was also mostly pre-internet too), I&#8217;ve always hated the hair down there.</p>
<p>So while companies will try to sell us anything for anything, there are some of us who are really the original customers :)</p>
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		<title>By: H.</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-536459</link>
		<dc:creator>H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole idea of imposing the male gaze paradigm on this sort of phenomenon is pointless and counterproductive. The male gaze is about the ONE-WAY objectification of women by men, supported by male power structures. When the gazer is also the gazed upon and the people sitting in judgment are identical to those judged, the paradigm falls apart. The model isn&#039;t suitable for male-male or female-female interactions. The male gaze cannot be turned upon other men because when it is turned upon other men it ceases to be the male gaze as the one-way, hierarchical nature of the gaze no longer applies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole idea of imposing the male gaze paradigm on this sort of phenomenon is pointless and counterproductive. The male gaze is about the ONE-WAY objectification of women by men, supported by male power structures. When the gazer is also the gazed upon and the people sitting in judgment are identical to those judged, the paradigm falls apart. The model isn&#8217;t suitable for male-male or female-female interactions. The male gaze cannot be turned upon other men because when it is turned upon other men it ceases to be the male gaze as the one-way, hierarchical nature of the gaze no longer applies.</p>
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		<title>By: A Beauty Regime for the &#8220;New Man&#8221; &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-231857</link>
		<dc:creator>A Beauty Regime for the &#8220;New Man&#8221; &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cream,&#8221; &#8220;cream me face base,&#8221; and &#8220;blo-job bronzing powder.&#8221;; and shaving your pubes marketed with the suggestion that it will make your penis look bigger.  var addthis_language = &#039;en&#039;;       20 Comments     Tags: gender, gender: beauty, gender: bodies, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cream,&#8221; &#8220;cream me face base,&#8221; and &#8220;blo-job bronzing powder.&#8221;; and shaving your pubes marketed with the suggestion that it will make your penis look bigger.  var addthis_language = &#39;en&#39;;       20 Comments     Tags: gender, gender: beauty, gender: bodies, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Liyana T</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-214221</link>
		<dc:creator>Liyana T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooh yeah, my friend shaves his chest too. I said hey, I like hairy men then he said the &#039;ladies&#039; don&#039;t seem to like it because it looks disgusting. Whatever turns you on lol :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooh yeah, my friend shaves his chest too. I said hey, I like hairy men then he said the &#8216;ladies&#8217; don&#8217;t seem to like it because it looks disgusting. Whatever turns you on lol :D</p>
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		<title>By: Mi historia con los kiwis &#171; alfanje</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-196138</link>
		<dc:creator>Mi historia con los kiwis &#171; alfanje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] En el esquema de mi admirado xkcd que sitúa en el plano cartesiano las frutas por su sabor y los fácil que resulta comerlas, yo pondría al kiwi en el cuadrante superior izquierdo, en algún punto intermedio en la diagonal que iría entre la sandía y la piña. A pesar de la s dificultades es una fruta tan deliciosa que será muy difícil que renuncie a ella. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] En el esquema de mi admirado xkcd que sitúa en el plano cartesiano las frutas por su sabor y los fácil que resulta comerlas, yo pondría al kiwi en el cuadrante superior izquierdo, en algún punto intermedio en la diagonal que iría entre la sandía y la piña. A pesar de la s dificultades es una fruta tan deliciosa que será muy difícil que renuncie a ella. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: When &#8220;Normal&#8221; Is Not Good Enough &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-192323</link>
		<dc:creator>When &#8220;Normal&#8221; Is Not Good Enough &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a body at all.  I mean, isn&#8217;t that part of what shaving our legs, chests, and genitals (both male and female) are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a body at all.  I mean, isn&#8217;t that part of what shaving our legs, chests, and genitals (both male and female) are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Korean Gender Reader: 8 June 2009 &#171; The Grand Narrative</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-68718</link>
		<dc:creator>Korean Gender Reader: 8 June 2009 &#171; The Grand Narrative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to attempts to create a market from scratch for deodorant and men&#8217;s cosmetics in Korea, this post from Sociological Images discusses Philips attempt to create a trend for the other 50 per cent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to attempts to create a market from scratch for deodorant and men&#8217;s cosmetics in Korea, this post from Sociological Images discusses Philips attempt to create a trend for the other 50 per cent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jaybike</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-63213</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaybike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have shaved my legs for over 23 yrs now.  Started doing it when I was racing bikes and only up to &#039;da boys&#039; at first.  Been shaving &#039;da boys&#039; for the past few years but always left a little on top.  Started trimming my chest and back with different &quot;groomers&quot;  last year.  So, last night I just went for it and shaved chest, legs, boys and all!   My wife loves it.  She even shaved it all off and what a great bed session we had afterwards.
I&#039;ll probably keep it off for the summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have shaved my legs for over 23 yrs now.  Started doing it when I was racing bikes and only up to &#8216;da boys&#8217; at first.  Been shaving &#8216;da boys&#8217; for the past few years but always left a little on top.  Started trimming my chest and back with different &#8220;groomers&#8221;  last year.  So, last night I just went for it and shaved chest, legs, boys and all!   My wife loves it.  She even shaved it all off and what a great bed session we had afterwards.<br />
I&#8217;ll probably keep it off for the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Korean Feminist Reader: 8 June 2009 &#171; The Grand Narrative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Korean Feminist Reader: 8 June 2009 &#171; The Grand Narrative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to attempts to create a market from scratch for deodorant and men&#8217;s cosmetics in Korea, this post from Sociological Images discusses Philips attempt to create a trend for the other 50 per cent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to attempts to create a market from scratch for deodorant and men&#8217;s cosmetics in Korea, this post from Sociological Images discusses Philips attempt to create a trend for the other 50 per cent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: yosh</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-48735</link>
		<dc:creator>yosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I shave because it feel FANTASTIC!  And, from my experience, most ladies love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shave because it feel FANTASTIC!  And, from my experience, most ladies love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-46716</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems like a lot of the time on this blog you take it as given that advertising is pushing people to do something they don’t want to. While many times this is the case, sometimes they are just giving people what they want.&quot;

Obviously the advertisers are working to sell their product because there is a market for it. However, in the first Phillips ad they show shaving as an option (you can shave wherever YOU want to, with one kiwi hairless), while in the video, it is really stressed that it will make you a better man to shave, and the only &quot;benefit&quot; they give is: &quot;When there&#039;s no underbrush, the tree looks taller.&quot; So the only benefit is to make your penis look bigger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems like a lot of the time on this blog you take it as given that advertising is pushing people to do something they don’t want to. While many times this is the case, sometimes they are just giving people what they want.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously the advertisers are working to sell their product because there is a market for it. However, in the first Phillips ad they show shaving as an option (you can shave wherever YOU want to, with one kiwi hairless), while in the video, it is really stressed that it will make you a better man to shave, and the only &#8220;benefit&#8221; they give is: &#8220;When there&#8217;s no underbrush, the tree looks taller.&#8221; So the only benefit is to make your penis look bigger?</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-46712</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a difference between being forced to shave in order to conform, or to be accepted, and to shave for pleasure. I have a feeling that a large portion of the feminist community opposes anything that modifies the body without actually considering that some of these modifications can be actually pleasurable for at least a part of the society.&quot;

I agree and I think especially within feminist circles this idea is certainly there, because a lot of women/men shave for completely personal reasons (be it pleasure or aesthetics, or any other reason).

I guess the real issue is that being hairless is generally acceptable and attractive and having hair is just not. I think what really needs to be pushed is that it&#039;s awesome if you shave, it&#039;s awesome if you don&#039;t, and it should be a completely personal decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a difference between being forced to shave in order to conform, or to be accepted, and to shave for pleasure. I have a feeling that a large portion of the feminist community opposes anything that modifies the body without actually considering that some of these modifications can be actually pleasurable for at least a part of the society.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree and I think especially within feminist circles this idea is certainly there, because a lot of women/men shave for completely personal reasons (be it pleasure or aesthetics, or any other reason).</p>
<p>I guess the real issue is that being hairless is generally acceptable and attractive and having hair is just not. I think what really needs to be pushed is that it&#8217;s awesome if you shave, it&#8217;s awesome if you don&#8217;t, and it should be a completely personal decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Peters</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-46648</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article: &quot;If you’re straight, unless you’re willing to ask a partner, you have to trust the advertisers to tell you what “today’s trend” is.  What a great deal for the companies.&quot;

Ain&#039;t necessarily so. If you&#039;re a man who goes to the gym, you&#039;re going to see naked man parts in the locker room. And from my observation, shaving &amp; trimming of male nether regions is way, way up in recent years. Even in the small town where I work, no one seems to think this is particularly noteworthy (although there&#039;s obviously going to be a reluctance to talk about it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article: &#8220;If you’re straight, unless you’re willing to ask a partner, you have to trust the advertisers to tell you what “today’s trend” is.  What a great deal for the companies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t necessarily so. If you&#8217;re a man who goes to the gym, you&#8217;re going to see naked man parts in the locker room. And from my observation, shaving &amp; trimming of male nether regions is way, way up in recent years. Even in the small town where I work, no one seems to think this is particularly noteworthy (although there&#8217;s obviously going to be a reluctance to talk about it).</p>
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		<title>By: Vidya</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/29/ball-bashing/comment-page-1/#comment-46639</link>
		<dc:creator>Vidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also remember, being social creatures, there is nothing more natural for a human to do than to conform to the social norm.&quot;

Yes, but the issue here is that such ads contribute to the formation and development of those norms. No one&#039;s arguing that this ad is creating a desire ex nihilo, but it does perform an important function in transmitting and shaping social expectations. For example, this shaving trend seems to have been influenced in part by pornography, but in formulating this practice as something able to be discussed in the wider public sphere -- and necessitating the development of a product which will be for sale in &#039;mainstream&#039; stores -- Philips is participating in that process of social change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also remember, being social creatures, there is nothing more natural for a human to do than to conform to the social norm.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but the issue here is that such ads contribute to the formation and development of those norms. No one&#8217;s arguing that this ad is creating a desire ex nihilo, but it does perform an important function in transmitting and shaping social expectations. For example, this shaving trend seems to have been influenced in part by pornography, but in formulating this practice as something able to be discussed in the wider public sphere &#8212; and necessitating the development of a product which will be for sale in &#8216;mainstream&#8217; stores &#8212; Philips is participating in that process of social change.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you spend any time with college students, as I do, you will realize that male body hair removal is actually IMMENSELY common already.  I would say 95% of frat boys are already smooth chested.

It seems like a lot of the time on this blog you take it as given that advertising is pushing people to do something they don&#039;t want to.  While many times this is the case, sometimes they are just giving people what they want.

This viewpoint seems to consistently give me the impression that you might view people who actually want said products as naive.  Is it so hard to believe some people WANT to shave their balls?

Also remember, being social creatures, there is nothing more natural for a human to do than to conform to the social norm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you spend any time with college students, as I do, you will realize that male body hair removal is actually IMMENSELY common already.  I would say 95% of frat boys are already smooth chested.</p>
<p>It seems like a lot of the time on this blog you take it as given that advertising is pushing people to do something they don&#8217;t want to.  While many times this is the case, sometimes they are just giving people what they want.</p>
<p>This viewpoint seems to consistently give me the impression that you might view people who actually want said products as naive.  Is it so hard to believe some people WANT to shave their balls?</p>
<p>Also remember, being social creatures, there is nothing more natural for a human to do than to conform to the social norm.</p>
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