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	<title>Comments on: Stick Figures And Stick Figures Who Parent</title>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-2/#comment-552253</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so ridiculous, In one post you argue how abhorrent it is that there is such a thing as a bike &quot;for women&quot; then in this one you moan that womens bikes don&#039;t feature in road signs... You&#039;ve dedicated yourself to a frankly asinine discourse, perhaps if you spent more time adressing real inequality rather than such trivial notions of social construction you would make a good little woman out of yourself

Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so ridiculous, In one post you argue how abhorrent it is that there is such a thing as a bike &#8220;for women&#8221; then in this one you moan that womens bikes don&#8217;t feature in road signs&#8230; You&#8217;ve dedicated yourself to a frankly asinine discourse, perhaps if you spent more time adressing real inequality rather than such trivial notions of social construction you would make a good little woman out of yourself</p>
<p>Susan</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-549291</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I have lived in Malmö my whole life and can attest to the fact there are plenty of those signs (in referense to the &quot;Emanuelle took a photo of this sign in Malmö, Sweden&quot;) I can think of 5 within 15 min walking distance. I honestly thought that this was the norm, there are two parent regardless of the familial status (together or not) and/or if it is opposite/same-sex parents. 
My parent were never married and had ended their romantic involvement by the time I was, about, one.I remember walking with my dad in the park and seeing  a sign like it and pointing it out as &quot;us&quot;. I liked feeling seen, as I think dads do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I have lived in Malmö my whole life and can attest to the fact there are plenty of those signs (in referense to the &#8220;Emanuelle took a photo of this sign in Malmö, Sweden&#8221;) I can think of 5 within 15 min walking distance. I honestly thought that this was the norm, there are two parent regardless of the familial status (together or not) and/or if it is opposite/same-sex parents.<br />
My parent were never married and had ended their romantic involvement by the time I was, about, one.I remember walking with my dad in the park and seeing  a sign like it and pointing it out as &#8220;us&#8221;. I liked feeling seen, as I think dads do.</p>
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		<title>By: Women vs. People : Ms Magazine Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Women vs. People : Ms Magazine Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] women’s t-shirts, scientists and female scientists, Best Buy assumes all customers are male, stick figures and stick figures who parent, and default [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] women’s t-shirts, scientists and female scientists, Best Buy assumes all customers are male, stick figures and stick figures who parent, and default [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sadie</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-541499</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I currently live in the Netherlands, and I see people of all genders riding all kinds of bikes everyday. The section of this article about Dutch bike signs seemed, to me, to be jumping to conclusions. This morning, I went out and watched the bicyclists in my neighborhood. My observation (admittedly based on a small sample) is that both men and women here often ride the &quot;opposite gender&#039;s&quot; bike- so often, in fact, that it&#039;s irrational to say that one style belongs to either gender. I don&#039;t believe that the signs are gendered in any way. It&#039;s just a picture of a bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently live in the Netherlands, and I see people of all genders riding all kinds of bikes everyday. The section of this article about Dutch bike signs seemed, to me, to be jumping to conclusions. This morning, I went out and watched the bicyclists in my neighborhood. My observation (admittedly based on a small sample) is that both men and women here often ride the &#8220;opposite gender&#8217;s&#8221; bike- so often, in fact, that it&#8217;s irrational to say that one style belongs to either gender. I don&#8217;t believe that the signs are gendered in any way. It&#8217;s just a picture of a bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Conversation</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-531418</link>
		<dc:creator>Conversation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 18:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also been to plenty of men&#039;s washrooms that have change-tables</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also been to plenty of men&#8217;s washrooms that have change-tables</p>
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		<title>By: Conversation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conversation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been repeated several times in the comments, but deserves noting. It is not the so-called male-gendered bike symbol, but in fact the actual &#039;women&#039;s-style bike&#039;, with its lowered bar -- designed to allow for gendered clothing -- that is gendered. If anything, the sign shows a fixed-gear bike, and therefore more likely discriminatory against competitive racing cyclists, mountainbikers, and bmx-trick riders. For shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been repeated several times in the comments, but deserves noting. It is not the so-called male-gendered bike symbol, but in fact the actual &#8216;women&#8217;s-style bike&#8217;, with its lowered bar &#8212; designed to allow for gendered clothing &#8212; that is gendered. If anything, the sign shows a fixed-gear bike, and therefore more likely discriminatory against competitive racing cyclists, mountainbikers, and bmx-trick riders. For shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelbs</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-530691</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but I always found this argument silly. There are much more important things to worry about, both socially and practically, than the proposed gender of stick figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I always found this argument silly. There are much more important things to worry about, both socially and practically, than the proposed gender of stick figures.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-530681</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;men&#039;s&quot; bicycle just looks like a normal bike to me. I&#039;m a woman and I have a bike like that. It&#039;s in no way a gender-specific bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;men&#8217;s&#8221; bicycle just looks like a normal bike to me. I&#8217;m a woman and I have a bike like that. It&#8217;s in no way a gender-specific bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-510571</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 04:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women complain about pressure to wear a skirt!  It&#039;s small pressure compared to what men face to NOT wear one!  It beggars language to describe how a sex neutral garment came to be attributed so overwhelmingly to females only.  Social forces alone---horseback riding---placed men into pants.  Whereas for the female the trouser represented freedom, for the male it&#039;s the skirt.  Blocking him are his own misconceptions and still worse, the appalling &quot;mental health&quot; (social conformity) movement flinging terminology against him (&quot;transvestite&quot; and &quot;cross-dresser&quot;) to STOP him from having choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women complain about pressure to wear a skirt!  It&#8217;s small pressure compared to what men face to NOT wear one!  It beggars language to describe how a sex neutral garment came to be attributed so overwhelmingly to females only.  Social forces alone&#8212;horseback riding&#8212;placed men into pants.  Whereas for the female the trouser represented freedom, for the male it&#8217;s the skirt.  Blocking him are his own misconceptions and still worse, the appalling &#8220;mental health&#8221; (social conformity) movement flinging terminology against him (&#8220;transvestite&#8221; and &#8220;cross-dresser&#8221;) to STOP him from having choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Korean Sociological Image #59: Childcare is (Still) Women&#8217;s Job! &#171; The Grand Narrative</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-501939</link>
		<dc:creator>Korean Sociological Image #59: Childcare is (Still) Women&#8217;s Job! &#171; The Grand Narrative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 11:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that such images are almost universal, and indeed the above ones look almost exactly the same as those in Dublin airport. Moreover, once you move away from signs to language instead, then, possibly following overseas [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that such images are almost universal, and indeed the above ones look almost exactly the same as those in Dublin airport. Moreover, once you move away from signs to language instead, then, possibly following overseas [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leigha</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-335814</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 05:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, actually. I have been informed (and seen signs indicating) that there are men&#039;s restrooms with changing tables (such as in Wal-Mart). Also, I have recently been made to realize that none of the restaurants in my area have changing tables at all, in either restroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, actually. I have been informed (and seen signs indicating) that there are men&#8217;s restrooms with changing tables (such as in Wal-Mart). Also, I have recently been made to realize that none of the restaurants in my area have changing tables at all, in either restroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Simone</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-327923</link>
		<dc:creator>Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite frankly, I&#039;m annoyed that someone could use the phrase &quot;what evolution intended&quot; and keep a straight face...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly, I&#8217;m annoyed that someone could use the phrase &#8220;what evolution intended&#8221; and keep a straight face&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/05/18/stick-figures-and-stick-figures-who-parent/comment-page-1/#comment-327908</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Additionally, I&#039;d like to toss in two cents about the gendering of signs: If there are four signs lined up, and two of them are wearing dresses and two are wearing pants, and assuming that the signs are heteronormative etc., the only thing to conclude from that would be that the people wearing dresses are female and the people wearing pants are male. If everyone wore pants, it would be more ambiguous, but this indicates a specific choice to apply dresses to specific characters in the signs. There are then two sub-categories of behaviours that they align with gender: people who take care of children and have to make sure they do non-stupid child-related things, and people who don&#039;t take care of children and have to make sure they do non-stupid, non-child-related things. It&#039;s not like there&#039;s an extra sign that show women being perfect and men being stupid. It shows things that everyone has to watch out for (represented by males), and things that women have to watch out for (making sure your kids don&#039;t disappear under the escalator).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additionally, I&#8217;d like to toss in two cents about the gendering of signs: If there are four signs lined up, and two of them are wearing dresses and two are wearing pants, and assuming that the signs are heteronormative etc., the only thing to conclude from that would be that the people wearing dresses are female and the people wearing pants are male. If everyone wore pants, it would be more ambiguous, but this indicates a specific choice to apply dresses to specific characters in the signs. There are then two sub-categories of behaviours that they align with gender: people who take care of children and have to make sure they do non-stupid child-related things, and people who don&#8217;t take care of children and have to make sure they do non-stupid, non-child-related things. It&#8217;s not like there&#8217;s an extra sign that show women being perfect and men being stupid. It shows things that everyone has to watch out for (represented by males), and things that women have to watch out for (making sure your kids don&#8217;t disappear under the escalator).</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>karinova, I agree!

If you were to translate this argument into a Canadian context, you might see a French sign with English underneath. If someone were to announce that the sign was photographed in Canada, it would be ridiculous to be offended that there was no question about why the sign was in French instead of English. Or in Chinese, or in Tamil, or in Russian. Countries are multicultural, and assuming that all signs must conform to the official language of the country in which it&#039;s photographed is just as presumptuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>karinova, I agree!</p>
<p>If you were to translate this argument into a Canadian context, you might see a French sign with English underneath. If someone were to announce that the sign was photographed in Canada, it would be ridiculous to be offended that there was no question about why the sign was in French instead of English. Or in Chinese, or in Tamil, or in Russian. Countries are multicultural, and assuming that all signs must conform to the official language of the country in which it&#8217;s photographed is just as presumptuous.</p>
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		<title>By: fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://alk.tiehallinto.fi/www2/liikennemerkit/images/421.gif

Tried to have this linked above, but failed... Here&#039;s the url anyway.</description>
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<p>Tried to have this linked above, but failed&#8230; Here&#8217;s the url anyway.</p>
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