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	<title>Comments on: Vogue Puts a Woman of Color on the Cover and Manages to be Both Sexist and Racist</title>
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		<title>By: AllenIverson100</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllenIverson100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Who cares</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Who cares</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Sanford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is dumb.. No wonder unemployment is so high there are a lot of idiots in the world and all of them see a point in this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is dumb.. No wonder unemployment is so high there are a lot of idiots in the world and all of them see a point in this article.</p>
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		<title>By: Boopy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d hardly describe Beyonce as &#039;extremely thin&#039;. I mean, I&#039;m not saying everyone should be a size six, but don&#039;t get carried away with what&#039;s a normal shape. Beyonce&#039;s just normal, not thin, not large. It&#039;s just as ridiculous to start saying size 16 is normal as to say size 6 is. It might be the most common, but it&#039;s not a normal, healthy weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d hardly describe Beyonce as &#8216;extremely thin&#8217;. I mean, I&#8217;m not saying everyone should be a size six, but don&#8217;t get carried away with what&#8217;s a normal shape. Beyonce&#8217;s just normal, not thin, not large. It&#8217;s just as ridiculous to start saying size 16 is normal as to say size 6 is. It might be the most common, but it&#8217;s not a normal, healthy weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Page-Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Page-Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO! Exactly. Completely unattainable because there&#039;s no way for the consumer to reach any other conclusion than to have cognitive dissonance and pay Vogue money as a worried and confused consumer to whom they&#039;re offering the services of their tips and secrets to be more desirable and look at other women you probably don&#039;t resemble nor have enough money to get the surgeries they&#039;ve had done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO! Exactly. Completely unattainable because there&#8217;s no way for the consumer to reach any other conclusion than to have cognitive dissonance and pay Vogue money as a worried and confused consumer to whom they&#8217;re offering the services of their tips and secrets to be more desirable and look at other women you probably don&#8217;t resemble nor have enough money to get the surgeries they&#8217;ve had done.</p>
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		<title>By: Image Ignorant &#171; emily rebekah</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/15/vogue-puts-a-woman-of-color-on-the-cover-and-manages-to-be-both-sexist-and-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-524817</link>
		<dc:creator>Image Ignorant &#171; emily rebekah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/15/vogue-puts-a-woman-of-color-on-the-cover-and-manages... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/15/vogue-puts-a-woman-of-color-on-the-cover-and-manages" rel="nofollow">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/15/vogue-puts-a-woman-of-color-on-the-cover-and-manages</a>&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/15/vogue-puts-a-woman-of-color-on-the-cover-and-manages-to-be-both-sexist-and-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-318388</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;You would rather restrict Vogue’s freedom of speech than have something that has the possibility of a negative perception.&lt;&lt;

You&#039;re a bit confused.  I haven&#039;t seen anyone here arguing for censorship or reduction of freedom of speech.  See, freedom of speech grants people the right to say what they want.  It does NOT grant anyone the right to say what they want without anyone else analyzing or criticizing what was said.  Nobody is saying that Vogue shouldn&#039;t have the right to produce whatever crap they want.  We&#039;re simply arguing that what they produce is crap.  It&#039;s important for you to recognize the difference--because there is one, and it&#039;s big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;You would rather restrict Vogue’s freedom of speech than have something that has the possibility of a negative perception.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>You&#039;re a bit confused.  I haven&#039;t seen anyone here arguing for censorship or reduction of freedom of speech.  See, freedom of speech grants people the right to say what they want.  It does NOT grant anyone the right to say what they want without anyone else analyzing or criticizing what was said.  Nobody is saying that Vogue shouldn&#039;t have the right to produce whatever crap they want.  We&#039;re simply arguing that what they produce is crap.  It&#039;s important for you to recognize the difference&#8211;because there is one, and it&#039;s big.</p>
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		<title>By: Cultural Patterns: One Example At A Time &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/15/vogue-puts-a-woman-of-color-on-the-cover-and-manages-to-be-both-sexist-and-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-108634</link>
		<dc:creator>Cultural Patterns: One Example At A Time &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fetishized in U.S. culture (that may or may not convince you that this is a pattern) see here, here, here, and here.        8 Comments     Tags: bodies, gender, race/ethnicity: Blacks/Africans     [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fetishized in U.S. culture (that may or may not convince you that this is a pattern) see here, here, here, and here.        8 Comments     Tags: bodies, gender, race/ethnicity: Blacks/Africans     [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Normal&#8221; Woman&#8217;s Body Published in Glamour&#8230;and People Like It! &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/15/vogue-puts-a-woman-of-color-on-the-cover-and-manages-to-be-both-sexist-and-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-102320</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Normal&#8221; Woman&#8217;s Body Published in Glamour&#8230;and People Like It! &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] examples of alternative beauty standards because they&#8217;re &#8220;curvy&#8221; (see our post on Beyoncé on the cover of Vogue&#8217;s shape issue). In that context, &#8220;curvy&#8221; seems to mean having an hourglass shape with large breasts [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] examples of alternative beauty standards because they&#8217;re &#8220;curvy&#8221; (see our post on Beyoncé on the cover of Vogue&#8217;s shape issue). In that context, &#8220;curvy&#8221; seems to mean having an hourglass shape with large breasts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Feminista</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/15/vogue-puts-a-woman-of-color-on-the-cover-and-manages-to-be-both-sexist-and-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-24261</link>
		<dc:creator>Feminista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t feed the troll, people... please... 

Great write-up by the OP. The comments, however, are a mixed-bag and I wonder why some of the commentators are even on this site to begin with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t feed the troll, people&#8230; please&#8230; </p>
<p>Great write-up by the OP. The comments, however, are a mixed-bag and I wonder why some of the commentators are even on this site to begin with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kitten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so not only are you a sizeist Gio, your little &quot;darling&quot; comment actually proves you are misogynist! Could you have trotted out an older method? &quot;Shame the woman by talking down to her like a child&quot; good one there! Keep going you have your wonderful captive audiance to spit your vitrol filled hate speech regarding women who wear something greater then a size 6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so not only are you a sizeist Gio, your little &#8220;darling&#8221; comment actually proves you are misogynist! Could you have trotted out an older method? &#8220;Shame the woman by talking down to her like a child&#8221; good one there! Keep going you have your wonderful captive audiance to spit your vitrol filled hate speech regarding women who wear something greater then a size 6.</p>
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		<title>By: Just passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah, &quot;the truth&quot; you say...the truth is nothing more than YOUR IDIOTIC OPINION, get it?  You obviously have issues with your own view of yourself and that is why you feel the need to attack people who are HEALTHY LOOKING and not anorexic sticks.  I don&#039;t care if you don&#039;t want to hear what I am saying because I will not stop just because you whine about how you want fashion to be.  SHE WAS ON THE COVER AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT FUCKER :D  So just go crawl back into the hole you came out of and learn that you are a fool and brain-washed by your society; your lack of an actual argument to my points is proof of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, &#8220;the truth&#8221; you say&#8230;the truth is nothing more than YOUR IDIOTIC OPINION, get it?  You obviously have issues with your own view of yourself and that is why you feel the need to attack people who are HEALTHY LOOKING and not anorexic sticks.  I don&#8217;t care if you don&#8217;t want to hear what I am saying because I will not stop just because you whine about how you want fashion to be.  SHE WAS ON THE COVER AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT FUCKER :D  So just go crawl back into the hole you came out of and learn that you are a fool and brain-washed by your society; your lack of an actual argument to my points is proof of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha! that was amazingly amusing darling. I still stand by what I say, I am judging according to the fact that in fashion you cannot be fat. Thats that. Beyoncé is too fat for the cover. I care nothing about your other opinions and you being hurt by what is said but its the truth. I don&#039;t care about what you think of me, you can keep that to yourself.

BTW- my BMI is 16.7 thank you for asking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha! that was amazingly amusing darling. I still stand by what I say, I am judging according to the fact that in fashion you cannot be fat. Thats that. Beyoncé is too fat for the cover. I care nothing about your other opinions and you being hurt by what is said but its the truth. I don&#8217;t care about what you think of me, you can keep that to yourself.</p>
<p>BTW- my BMI is 16.7 thank you for asking!</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BTW-I’m not a misogynist, I am actually the exact opposite. I just do not like large women in fashion. Its disgusting.&quot;

Lolz. I&#039;m not a misandrist, I just think any man with a BMI over 18 is a fucking fat pig. (Oh, is that almost all of them? Oops.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BTW-I’m not a misogynist, I am actually the exact opposite. I just do not like large women in fashion. Its disgusting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lolz. I&#8217;m not a misandrist, I just think any man with a BMI over 18 is a fucking fat pig. (Oh, is that almost all of them? Oops.)</p>
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		<title>By: Just passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;what is open for debate is the fact that I think that Beyoncé is much too large for Vogue magazine&quot;

You do not even have any valid reasons to back up your claims except that it makes you cringe to see a HEALTHY looking woman on the cover of a magazine...no, actually, i take that back because i do not know her current health condition.  Hell, she could be striving for that anorexic, thin look because people like you tell her that she needs to.

&quot;There are plenty of waif and thin supermodels who are immensely more deserving of such a prestige as to be on the cover of the worlds most recognized fashion magazine.&quot;

Who are YOU to decide that?  You obviously think you are some kind of high and mighty god or something, who has the jurisdiction to judge a person&#039;s worth based on their appearance.  Well, I have news for you buddy; your opinion is worth just as much as mine and mine is close to NOTHING as you probably feel.  You can live just as easily as I can and you can die just as easily.  You are not worth as much as you would like to believe, and neither are your opinions.

&quot;You my darling seem like an embittered, overweight feminist in my personal opinion but never once have I attacked you for what you come off as, because I do not argue with fools&quot;

Thanks for judging me just because I believe in respect - except for scum like you that has no respect for anyone but yourself; not even those super thin models you talk so much about.  You only care about yourself, and this is painfully obvious.

And you have been arguing with me this entire time!  Don&#039;t try and pretend you are better than me because you are also having an argument over the internet with someone you don&#039;t know, otherwise you would just have ignored me and my comments.

&quot;I wish you nothing but the best and over abundant blessings in your life&quot;

Oh spare me.

&quot;what I do know is that it is horribly unfair for Beyoncé and other artists that are not models and are NOT thin to press into the fashion world when they are not thin. Size 6 and under.&quot;

All I can say again is that you have no right to judge that and you disgust me.

&quot;BTW-I’m not a misogynist, I am actually the exact opposite. I just do not like large women in fashion. Its disgusting.&quot;

Only loving thin women does not make you respectful towards women; it makes you a stupid, ignorant product of your society.  If we were say, in the 16th century during the time of the Renaissance, then you would find more rotund women to be the epitome of beauty.  You only think that bony, skinny women are attractive because of the standards of beauty set by society, and if you cannot see that beauty is subjective, then you are truly an idiot.  This is a sociological thread, so leave if you cannot even use your mind correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;what is open for debate is the fact that I think that Beyoncé is much too large for Vogue magazine&#8221;</p>
<p>You do not even have any valid reasons to back up your claims except that it makes you cringe to see a HEALTHY looking woman on the cover of a magazine&#8230;no, actually, i take that back because i do not know her current health condition.  Hell, she could be striving for that anorexic, thin look because people like you tell her that she needs to.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are plenty of waif and thin supermodels who are immensely more deserving of such a prestige as to be on the cover of the worlds most recognized fashion magazine.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who are YOU to decide that?  You obviously think you are some kind of high and mighty god or something, who has the jurisdiction to judge a person&#8217;s worth based on their appearance.  Well, I have news for you buddy; your opinion is worth just as much as mine and mine is close to NOTHING as you probably feel.  You can live just as easily as I can and you can die just as easily.  You are not worth as much as you would like to believe, and neither are your opinions.</p>
<p>&#8220;You my darling seem like an embittered, overweight feminist in my personal opinion but never once have I attacked you for what you come off as, because I do not argue with fools&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for judging me just because I believe in respect &#8211; except for scum like you that has no respect for anyone but yourself; not even those super thin models you talk so much about.  You only care about yourself, and this is painfully obvious.</p>
<p>And you have been arguing with me this entire time!  Don&#8217;t try and pretend you are better than me because you are also having an argument over the internet with someone you don&#8217;t know, otherwise you would just have ignored me and my comments.</p>
<p>&#8220;I wish you nothing but the best and over abundant blessings in your life&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh spare me.</p>
<p>&#8220;what I do know is that it is horribly unfair for Beyoncé and other artists that are not models and are NOT thin to press into the fashion world when they are not thin. Size 6 and under.&#8221;</p>
<p>All I can say again is that you have no right to judge that and you disgust me.</p>
<p>&#8220;BTW-I’m not a misogynist, I am actually the exact opposite. I just do not like large women in fashion. Its disgusting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only loving thin women does not make you respectful towards women; it makes you a stupid, ignorant product of your society.  If we were say, in the 16th century during the time of the Renaissance, then you would find more rotund women to be the epitome of beauty.  You only think that bony, skinny women are attractive because of the standards of beauty set by society, and if you cannot see that beauty is subjective, then you are truly an idiot.  This is a sociological thread, so leave if you cannot even use your mind correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Gio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awe. Well that was a very cute monologue, but please spare me your dramatics. I honestly do not care about your opinion it means absolutely nothing to me, I am who I am and that is not up for debate, what is open for debate is the fact that I think that Beyoncé is much too large for Vogue magazine, I see the attempt that Anna Wintour was trying to make to reach out to people like yourself who believe that everything should be accepted, and everything is fair. Life is not fair, and Beyoncé is still too large for Vogue. There are plenty of waif and thin supermodels who are immensely more deserving of such a prestige as to be on the cover of the worlds most recognized fashion magazine. You my darling seem like an embittered, overweight feminist in my personal opinion but never once have I attacked you for what you come off as, because I do not argue with fools, and I wish you nothing but the best and over abundant blessings in your life, but what I do know is that it is horribly unfair for Beyoncé and other artists that are not models and are NOT thin to press into the fashion world when they are not thin. Size 6 and under. 

BTW-I&#039;m not a misogynist, I am actually the exact opposite. I just do not like large women in fashion. Its disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awe. Well that was a very cute monologue, but please spare me your dramatics. I honestly do not care about your opinion it means absolutely nothing to me, I am who I am and that is not up for debate, what is open for debate is the fact that I think that Beyoncé is much too large for Vogue magazine, I see the attempt that Anna Wintour was trying to make to reach out to people like yourself who believe that everything should be accepted, and everything is fair. Life is not fair, and Beyoncé is still too large for Vogue. There are plenty of waif and thin supermodels who are immensely more deserving of such a prestige as to be on the cover of the worlds most recognized fashion magazine. You my darling seem like an embittered, overweight feminist in my personal opinion but never once have I attacked you for what you come off as, because I do not argue with fools, and I wish you nothing but the best and over abundant blessings in your life, but what I do know is that it is horribly unfair for Beyoncé and other artists that are not models and are NOT thin to press into the fashion world when they are not thin. Size 6 and under. </p>
<p>BTW-I&#8217;m not a misogynist, I am actually the exact opposite. I just do not like large women in fashion. Its disgusting.</p>
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