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	<title>Comments on: Gender, Race, and Risk: Can Black Men be Sexually Assaulted?</title>
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		<title>By: Bella the Bunny Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bella the Bunny Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two cracking jokes were the character&#039;s crass and annoying female love interests. They were starstruck when another male character said he waited until his wedding night to love his virginity to his also virgin wife. 

Worse, the actor who played Carter had said in an interview he lost his virginity at 13 to a drunken 19 year old who forced herself on him at a party and it had a lasting effect. How as a writer do you ask an actor to relive that and be laughed at for it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two cracking jokes were the character&#8217;s crass and annoying female love interests. They were starstruck when another male character said he waited until his wedding night to love his virginity to his also virgin wife. </p>
<p>Worse, the actor who played Carter had said in an interview he lost his virginity at 13 to a drunken 19 year old who forced herself on him at a party and it had a lasting effect. How as a writer do you ask an actor to relive that and be laughed at for it?</p>
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		<title>By: Loopylula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loopylula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree there is racism AND sexism at play here. Most if not all &#039;relationships&#039; between a grown woman and underaged boy are seen as acceptable sick as that is because it&#039;s supposedly &#039;different&#039; right and I&#039;m the new daughter-in-law to the Queen of England! And the fact that he&#039;s black means he&#039;s not worthy of sympathy the same folks touting Mary Kay around would NEVER do that for a man maybe it he was a white male celebrity though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there is racism AND sexism at play here. Most if not all &#8216;relationships&#8217; between a grown woman and underaged boy are seen as acceptable sick as that is because it&#8217;s supposedly &#8216;different&#8217; right and I&#8217;m the new daughter-in-law to the Queen of England! And the fact that he&#8217;s black means he&#8217;s not worthy of sympathy the same folks touting Mary Kay around would NEVER do that for a man maybe it he was a white male celebrity though.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hypersexualization of Latino Boys &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/14/gender-race-and-risk-can-black-men-be-sexually-assaulted/comment-page-1/#comment-318084</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hypersexualization of Latino Boys &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and thus can&#8217;t really be vulnerable to sexual assault or coercion. For another example, see this post about how Jimmy Kimmel reacts when Lil&#8217; Wayne confirms that he lost his virginity at age 11.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and thus can&#8217;t really be vulnerable to sexual assault or coercion. For another example, see this post about how Jimmy Kimmel reacts when Lil&#8217; Wayne confirms that he lost his virginity at age 11.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Endor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Which reminds me; The Wedding Crashers has been on TV a lot lately; another movie about how HILARIOUS raping men can be.&quot;

I actually saw this piece of crap in the theater. Got up and walked out when Vaughn&#039;s character started talking about what happened and people in the audience starting laughing.  can&#039;t decide if people are stupid or sick.  


&quot;I think race doesn’t really play a role here.&quot;

I disagree.  Stereotypes of the &quot;animalistic&quot; sex drive of the black male still persist. Its likely that plays into why this Kimmel douche thinks its funny to mock the rape of an 11-year-old black boy.  It is true that similar stereotypes exist for men in general (how many times have we heard some moron joke about a male student victim of older female teachers thinking its great, etc.), however, I think it&#039;s a bad idea  to overlook the race element.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Which reminds me; The Wedding Crashers has been on TV a lot lately; another movie about how HILARIOUS raping men can be.&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually saw this piece of crap in the theater. Got up and walked out when Vaughn&#8217;s character started talking about what happened and people in the audience starting laughing.  can&#8217;t decide if people are stupid or sick.  </p>
<p>&#8220;I think race doesn’t really play a role here.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree.  Stereotypes of the &#8220;animalistic&#8221; sex drive of the black male still persist. Its likely that plays into why this Kimmel douche thinks its funny to mock the rape of an 11-year-old black boy.  It is true that similar stereotypes exist for men in general (how many times have we heard some moron joke about a male student victim of older female teachers thinking its great, etc.), however, I think it&#8217;s a bad idea  to overlook the race element.</p>
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		<title>By: When a Man is the Victim: A Second Study in Rape Apology at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/14/gender-race-and-risk-can-black-men-be-sexually-assaulted/comment-page-1/#comment-24895</link>
		<dc:creator>When a Man is the Victim: A Second Study in Rape Apology at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it stays the same, in a case of rape where a man was the victim of a female assailant. After seeing this video at Sociological Images, along with the questions Lisa poses about the attitudes towards sexual violence it reveals, I’m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it stays the same, in a case of rape where a man was the victim of a female assailant. After seeing this video at Sociological Images, along with the questions Lisa poses about the attitudes towards sexual violence it reveals, I’m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: When a Man is the Victim: A Second Study in Rape Apology : The Curvature</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/14/gender-race-and-risk-can-black-men-be-sexually-assaulted/comment-page-1/#comment-14288</link>
		<dc:creator>When a Man is the Victim: A Second Study in Rape Apology : The Curvature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stays the same, in a case of rape where a man was the victim of a female assailant.   After seeing this video at Sociological Images, along with the questions Lisa poses about the attitudes towards sexual violence it reveals, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] stays the same, in a case of rape where a man was the victim of a female assailant.   After seeing this video at Sociological Images, along with the questions Lisa poses about the attitudes towards sexual violence it reveals, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spicybiscotti / Spring Cleaning Pt. One: Nancy Reagan Dazzle Edition</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/14/gender-race-and-risk-can-black-men-be-sexually-assaulted/comment-page-1/#comment-14030</link>
		<dc:creator>spicybiscotti / Spring Cleaning Pt. One: Nancy Reagan Dazzle Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Race and Rape: &#8220;In the clip, Kimmel asks Wayne about losing his virginity at age 11. Wayne reveals that he did, indeed, lose his virginity at 11. He lost it to a 14-year-old girl who turned out the lights and surprised Wayne into participating, even as he had not intended doing so. What is fascinating is, were Wayne a white female, this narrative would have been considered molestation or rape. As a black male, doubly hypersexualized as a man (who always wants sex) and a black man (who really always wants sex), it’s just considered a joke. This is really nice evidence of the social construction of men, especially Black and Latino men, as hypersexual and, therefore, incapable of being sexually assaulted… Just one excerpt: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On Race and Rape: &#8220;In the clip, Kimmel asks Wayne about losing his virginity at age 11. Wayne reveals that he did, indeed, lose his virginity at 11. He lost it to a 14-year-old girl who turned out the lights and surprised Wayne into participating, even as he had not intended doing so. What is fascinating is, were Wayne a white female, this narrative would have been considered molestation or rape. As a black male, doubly hypersexualized as a man (who always wants sex) and a black man (who really always wants sex), it’s just considered a joke. This is really nice evidence of the social construction of men, especially Black and Latino men, as hypersexual and, therefore, incapable of being sexually assaulted… Just one excerpt: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: consensus reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>consensus reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara, I think it&#039;s an oversimplification to discuss this issue as simply involving an interest in sex. For example, when I was 11 years old, I was extremely interested in sex, but to have an actual sexual encounter would undoubtedly have been very damaging to my psyche.

I also know two men who were sexually assaulted by women at a young age, and both were traumatized by the experience. I too feel for Lil Wayne to have been forced to relate his story on national television and have it trivialized. I think this reflects a lack of acknowledgment in mainstream society that 1) men can be raped by women and 2) losing your virginity is not always voluntary. With the second point, I&#039;ve often felt the inquiry into someone&#039;s virginity status is intertwined with privilege, as well as race and class (and gender, of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara, I think it&#8217;s an oversimplification to discuss this issue as simply involving an interest in sex. For example, when I was 11 years old, I was extremely interested in sex, but to have an actual sexual encounter would undoubtedly have been very damaging to my psyche.</p>
<p>I also know two men who were sexually assaulted by women at a young age, and both were traumatized by the experience. I too feel for Lil Wayne to have been forced to relate his story on national television and have it trivialized. I think this reflects a lack of acknowledgment in mainstream society that 1) men can be raped by women and 2) losing your virginity is not always voluntary. With the second point, I&#8217;ve often felt the inquiry into someone&#8217;s virginity status is intertwined with privilege, as well as race and class (and gender, of course).</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t aware that 11-yr old boys were interested in sex. Maybe I just didn&#039;t hang out around the right ones when I was a tween and discovering my sexuality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that 11-yr old boys were interested in sex. Maybe I just didn&#8217;t hang out around the right ones when I was a tween and discovering my sexuality.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a man, who was sexually assaulted by a 17 year old girl, when he was 14 years old. (They used to hang around together).

It was still communism in our country, he knew nothing about sex at that age. He was shattered, shocked, kept it as a shameful secret (as opposed to boys bragging to each other) and could not share what worried him even to his own brother. Even now, when grown-up, he doesn&#039;t tell this story to anyone, and if he did, nobody would consider him a victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a man, who was sexually assaulted by a 17 year old girl, when he was 14 years old. (They used to hang around together).</p>
<p>It was still communism in our country, he knew nothing about sex at that age. He was shattered, shocked, kept it as a shameful secret (as opposed to boys bragging to each other) and could not share what worried him even to his own brother. Even now, when grown-up, he doesn&#8217;t tell this story to anyone, and if he did, nobody would consider him a victim.</p>
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		<title>By: Village Idiot</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/03/14/gender-race-and-risk-can-black-men-be-sexually-assaulted/comment-page-1/#comment-12608</link>
		<dc:creator>Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White boys can lose their virginity at 11 also. I know one who did, and he said it was his idea (he stole something trendy from his older sister -some kind of accessory popular at the time- and traded it to a 13 year old girl for her, um, affections). I met him in college where he&#039;d been leaving a growing crowd of rather pissed off women in his wake as his initial encounter sort of set the stage for how he interacted with them all the way into adulthood (&#039;dating&#039; was a simple exchange of commodities). 

I&#039;m not sure if he ever changed his ways, but last I heard he had become a professional youth counselor. 

Elo: I happen to know plenty of women who prefer the powerful, challenging, and confrontational sounds of a hard electric guitar over acoustic softness, but those women are a lot more intimidating to many men. When a guy stops his fierce jams and picks up a mellow acoustic guitar to woo the ladies, I think it means he&#039;s trying to attract a certain kind. 

The chocolate-and-roses romantic schtick is more associated with traditional courtship which is intended to lead to long term commitment and ultimately marriage, whereas hard-core rocking and rolling women are just as likely to kick the guy out of bed in the morning as vice-versa (and men don&#039;t appreciate being used like that! It&#039;s appalling!). But hard-core women are double-standard branded as slutty, so when it&#039;s time to attract a &lt;i&gt;lady&lt;/i&gt; (the kind they can introduce to mom) they break out the acoustic. They also probably think women believe a guy who plays love songs on an acoustic guitar would be more &#039;romantic&#039; and less prone to love-em-and-leave-em. None of this is necessarily true, but that is often the case with what motivates our behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White boys can lose their virginity at 11 also. I know one who did, and he said it was his idea (he stole something trendy from his older sister -some kind of accessory popular at the time- and traded it to a 13 year old girl for her, um, affections). I met him in college where he&#8217;d been leaving a growing crowd of rather pissed off women in his wake as his initial encounter sort of set the stage for how he interacted with them all the way into adulthood (&#8216;dating&#8217; was a simple exchange of commodities). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if he ever changed his ways, but last I heard he had become a professional youth counselor. </p>
<p>Elo: I happen to know plenty of women who prefer the powerful, challenging, and confrontational sounds of a hard electric guitar over acoustic softness, but those women are a lot more intimidating to many men. When a guy stops his fierce jams and picks up a mellow acoustic guitar to woo the ladies, I think it means he&#8217;s trying to attract a certain kind. </p>
<p>The chocolate-and-roses romantic schtick is more associated with traditional courtship which is intended to lead to long term commitment and ultimately marriage, whereas hard-core rocking and rolling women are just as likely to kick the guy out of bed in the morning as vice-versa (and men don&#8217;t appreciate being used like that! It&#8217;s appalling!). But hard-core women are double-standard branded as slutty, so when it&#8217;s time to attract a <i>lady</i> (the kind they can introduce to mom) they break out the acoustic. They also probably think women believe a guy who plays love songs on an acoustic guitar would be more &#8216;romantic&#8217; and less prone to love-em-and-leave-em. None of this is necessarily true, but that is often the case with what motivates our behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Elo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that Lil Wayne needs an acoustic when the ladies are around.  Yes, the acoustic guitar is romantic.  But only in the same sense that roses, candy, and diamond rings are too.  Can&#039;t a woman, instead of being seduced by sweet melodies, be attracted to something powerful, challenging and perhaps confrontational, like an electric guitar? And not only be attracted, yet identify with that sound as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that Lil Wayne needs an acoustic when the ladies are around.  Yes, the acoustic guitar is romantic.  But only in the same sense that roses, candy, and diamond rings are too.  Can&#8217;t a woman, instead of being seduced by sweet melodies, be attracted to something powerful, challenging and perhaps confrontational, like an electric guitar? And not only be attracted, yet identify with that sound as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that Lil Wayne needs an acoustic when the ladies are around.  Yes, the acoustic guitar is romantic.  But only in the same sense that roses, candy, and diamond rings are too.  Can&#039;t a woman, instead of being seduced by sweet melodies, be attracted to something powerful, challenging and perhaps confrontational, like an electric guitar? And not only be attracted, yet identify with that sound as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that Lil Wayne needs an acoustic when the ladies are around.  Yes, the acoustic guitar is romantic.  But only in the same sense that roses, candy, and diamond rings are too.  Can&#8217;t a woman, instead of being seduced by sweet melodies, be attracted to something powerful, challenging and perhaps confrontational, like an electric guitar? And not only be attracted, yet identify with that sound as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Dubi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dubi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think race doesn&#039;t really play a role here. It&#039;s all gender. Cf. the latest South Park episode, for example. I tend to believe it would&#039;ve been taken as as much of a joke if it was a white man, and as horrific if it were a black woman (as it would&#039;ve been had it been a white woman).

You see these reactions every time a story comes up about a teacher who had sex with a student of hers - reactions that would never come up if the genders were reversed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think race doesn&#8217;t really play a role here. It&#8217;s all gender. Cf. the latest South Park episode, for example. I tend to believe it would&#8217;ve been taken as as much of a joke if it was a white man, and as horrific if it were a black woman (as it would&#8217;ve been had it been a white woman).</p>
<p>You see these reactions every time a story comes up about a teacher who had sex with a student of hers &#8211; reactions that would never come up if the genders were reversed.</p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d love to make a video of the same talk show set up with a female host and a female guest, using the same dialogue from the lil wayne clip.... like, &quot;he turned the lights out, he pulled my pants down, i reached to see what was going on and i felt he was naked, and i was like &#039;whoah&#039;...etc.......i think it would resonate in a similar way to tina fey&#039;s word for word impersonations of sarah palin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d love to make a video of the same talk show set up with a female host and a female guest, using the same dialogue from the lil wayne clip&#8230;. like, &#8220;he turned the lights out, he pulled my pants down, i reached to see what was going on and i felt he was naked, and i was like &#8216;whoah&#8217;&#8230;etc&#8230;&#8230;.i think it would resonate in a similar way to tina fey&#8217;s word for word impersonations of sarah palin&#8230;</p>
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