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	<title>Comments on: The Feminization of Love</title>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/14/the-feminization-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-547141</link>
		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 01:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel most loved by my partner when he thanks me for doing things I don&#039;t &quot;have&quot; to do (washing dishes, making meals, doing his laundry) instead of assuming those are things I should do as his partner.  I have long realized that my father doesn&#039;t say he loves us.  He paints the kitchens when he comes to visit, or fixes a broken door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel most loved by my partner when he thanks me for doing things I don&#8217;t &#8220;have&#8221; to do (washing dishes, making meals, doing his laundry) instead of assuming those are things I should do as his partner.  I have long realized that my father doesn&#8217;t say he loves us.  He paints the kitchens when he comes to visit, or fixes a broken door.</p>
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		<title>By: In which I am a grumpy feminist and enjoy it. &#171; Tripod Anything</title>
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		<dc:creator>In which I am a grumpy feminist and enjoy it. &#171; Tripod Anything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1. The commodification of love as something that can be bought and sold; 2. The expectation that love should be bought and sold, because love is the only way to happiness; 3. Men therefore can and should attempt to purchase affection from women in a hegemonic heterosexual relationship. (While there are many Valentines gifts advertised for men love is usually quite a feminized concept.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1. The commodification of love as something that can be bought and sold; 2. The expectation that love should be bought and sold, because love is the only way to happiness; 3. Men therefore can and should attempt to purchase affection from women in a hegemonic heterosexual relationship. (While there are many Valentines gifts advertised for men love is usually quite a feminized concept.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/14/the-feminization-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-286966</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 21:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women whine and complain in relationships. They demand attention, presents and affection. Of course, this is a total bummer to men, who don&#039;t really see the point in any of those things. Valentine&#039;s Day is there so that they can grit their teeth together and give the woman all those things in an intensive 24-hour marathon session so that she&#039;ll calm down and shut up, and continue dispensing blowjobs and clean dishes for the other 364 days of the year.

(As a side note, I am being heavily sarcastic.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women whine and complain in relationships. They demand attention, presents and affection. Of course, this is a total bummer to men, who don&#8217;t really see the point in any of those things. Valentine&#8217;s Day is there so that they can grit their teeth together and give the woman all those things in an intensive 24-hour marathon session so that she&#8217;ll calm down and shut up, and continue dispensing blowjobs and clean dishes for the other 364 days of the year.</p>
<p>(As a side note, I am being heavily sarcastic.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/14/the-feminization-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-218969</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree with The Nerd and wonder if these things are considered feminine because they&#039;re about tenderness, softness, sensitivity, nurturing and feelings. 

I have to say I don&#039;t really know what was meant by a &quot;masculine&quot; romance. Candles are only considered feminine because they&#039;re soft and gentle, and because men aren&#039;t &quot;supposed&quot; to be these things they&#039;re not &quot;supposed&quot; to appreciate these things either.

Traditionally in cultures across the world (including our own) roses and chocolate were actually considered masculine because they were sophisticated and if you could acquire them it showed you had wealth, money and therefore power. Roses and chocolate were also associated with sexuality and were therefore also considered masculine to the point where in some countries women were forbidden or discouraged from consuming chocolate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree with The Nerd and wonder if these things are considered feminine because they&#8217;re about tenderness, softness, sensitivity, nurturing and feelings. </p>
<p>I have to say I don&#8217;t really know what was meant by a &#8220;masculine&#8221; romance. Candles are only considered feminine because they&#8217;re soft and gentle, and because men aren&#8217;t &#8220;supposed&#8221; to be these things they&#8217;re not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to appreciate these things either.</p>
<p>Traditionally in cultures across the world (including our own) roses and chocolate were actually considered masculine because they were sophisticated and if you could acquire them it showed you had wealth, money and therefore power. Roses and chocolate were also associated with sexuality and were therefore also considered masculine to the point where in some countries women were forbidden or discouraged from consuming chocolate.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Valentines Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy Valentines Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benioto</title>
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		<dc:creator>benioto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will like every thin on this  particular content</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will like every thin on this  particular content</p>
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		<title>By: ganu</title>
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		<dc:creator>ganu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>l luv red roses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>l luv red roses</p>
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		<title>By: thewhatifgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>thewhatifgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, one thing about flowers is that they were associated for a long time with vanity, a trait that was also typically assigned mostly to women.  They were often shown as a reminder that beauty (and other &quot;good&quot; things) is fleeting.  Research &quot;memento mori&quot; and you will probably find depictions of blooming flowers.  Which seems like a back-handed compliment to me.

I wonder if similar things might be true of some of the other things that are associated with love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, one thing about flowers is that they were associated for a long time with vanity, a trait that was also typically assigned mostly to women.  They were often shown as a reminder that beauty (and other &#8220;good&#8221; things) is fleeting.  Research &#8220;memento mori&#8221; and you will probably find depictions of blooming flowers.  Which seems like a back-handed compliment to me.</p>
<p>I wonder if similar things might be true of some of the other things that are associated with love.</p>
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		<title>By: ashie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love red roses..........
they r pretty...
&amp; lovely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love red roses&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
they r pretty&#8230;<br />
&amp; lovely</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with The Nerd - why are these things necessarily feminine?  Walking on the beach?  Having dinner?
My partner would enjoy me bringing him flowers as much as I would enjoy him to do it for me.  Are flowers feminine because they&#039;re a frivolous present that doesn&#039;t do or mean anything other than &quot;I was thinking of you&quot; and therefore were traditionally brought to women by men as a gesture of love (men being traditionally the ones with the money and ability to buy gifts)?  If so, they&#039;re less about femininity than they are just about romance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with The Nerd &#8211; why are these things necessarily feminine?  Walking on the beach?  Having dinner?<br />
My partner would enjoy me bringing him flowers as much as I would enjoy him to do it for me.  Are flowers feminine because they&#8217;re a frivolous present that doesn&#8217;t do or mean anything other than &#8220;I was thinking of you&#8221; and therefore were traditionally brought to women by men as a gesture of love (men being traditionally the ones with the money and ability to buy gifts)?  If so, they&#8217;re less about femininity than they are just about romance.</p>
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		<title>By: e.</title>
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		<dc:creator>e.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this just reminded me of a couple who were having lots of minor fights anyway and then the guy thought hed do something a little different for valentines day - he bought his girlfriend a cream coloured rose instead of a red one. it was meant to be more special, because everyone buys red roses for their beloved. BIG mistake (well, considering her reaction and the outcome of that small incident hes probably much better off now).
she crushed the rose, went icy and created such a ruckus that in the end they were separating for good, just like that. because she was of the opinion that he couldnt love her if he didnt get her a red rose (only red roses signify love, obviously).

this is just crazy and i at first didnt want to believe it (my boyfriend doesnt even bother with getting me something for my birthday, much less so on valentines day. but nor do i, and the love is visible to us still.), but it really seems to be the way it works for some people.

as for this cutting both ways - certainly. this woman took to absolute domination. he was really trying to make up for it afterwards but then luckily could only bend so far and the thing broke off.
seems to me love is not about this kind of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this just reminded me of a couple who were having lots of minor fights anyway and then the guy thought hed do something a little different for valentines day &#8211; he bought his girlfriend a cream coloured rose instead of a red one. it was meant to be more special, because everyone buys red roses for their beloved. BIG mistake (well, considering her reaction and the outcome of that small incident hes probably much better off now).<br />
she crushed the rose, went icy and created such a ruckus that in the end they were separating for good, just like that. because she was of the opinion that he couldnt love her if he didnt get her a red rose (only red roses signify love, obviously).</p>
<p>this is just crazy and i at first didnt want to believe it (my boyfriend doesnt even bother with getting me something for my birthday, much less so on valentines day. but nor do i, and the love is visible to us still.), but it really seems to be the way it works for some people.</p>
<p>as for this cutting both ways &#8211; certainly. this woman took to absolute domination. he was really trying to make up for it afterwards but then luckily could only bend so far and the thing broke off.<br />
seems to me love is not about this kind of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: The Nerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Nerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find interesting is that these things are associated with femininity.  For example, chocolate is gendered?  Why?  Thank you, marketing departments across the US.  In a perfect world, men would be allowed to express their enjoyment of all these things just as much as women can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find interesting is that these things are associated with femininity.  For example, chocolate is gendered?  Why?  Thank you, marketing departments across the US.  In a perfect world, men would be allowed to express their enjoyment of all these things just as much as women can.</p>
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		<title>By: Mercurianferret</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/14/the-feminization-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-7158</link>
		<dc:creator>Mercurianferret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm.... Yes, but it cuts both ways. For example, if person A in a couple likes something that person B doesn&#039;t, wouldn&#039;t it be a show of love for person B to give to A what A likes without expectation of reciprocation?

The problem with the above scenario is that (unless it matches up with some or all of the norms of Valentine&#039;s Day), there will likely be tension. Tension because it is a nonstandard thing to do - and the expectation of the standard is likely there (this is the tricky thing about surprise parties and the like). Tension, too, because the recipient may well feel like there is an expectation for reciprocation.

Maybe I&#039;m thinking too much into it, but sometimes it is easiest to just go with the flow of expected norms, otherwise you risk disappointment, unexpected senses of reciprocation, or something similarly awkward. Of course, one could plan what will happen well in advance, either by discussing how &quot;this year let&#039;s do something different&quot; or providing a oh-so-unromantic schedule of events.

I have long held the belief that Valentine&#039;s Day is a dangerous day, since it plays with the fundamental feelings of love, need, and acceptance. Knowing how one is accepted and loved is easier to do in a well-defined ritual set up by sometimes-annoying cultural norms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;. Yes, but it cuts both ways. For example, if person A in a couple likes something that person B doesn&#8217;t, wouldn&#8217;t it be a show of love for person B to give to A what A likes without expectation of reciprocation?</p>
<p>The problem with the above scenario is that (unless it matches up with some or all of the norms of Valentine&#8217;s Day), there will likely be tension. Tension because it is a nonstandard thing to do &#8211; and the expectation of the standard is likely there (this is the tricky thing about surprise parties and the like). Tension, too, because the recipient may well feel like there is an expectation for reciprocation.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m thinking too much into it, but sometimes it is easiest to just go with the flow of expected norms, otherwise you risk disappointment, unexpected senses of reciprocation, or something similarly awkward. Of course, one could plan what will happen well in advance, either by discussing how &#8220;this year let&#8217;s do something different&#8221; or providing a oh-so-unromantic schedule of events.</p>
<p>I have long held the belief that Valentine&#8217;s Day is a dangerous day, since it plays with the fundamental feelings of love, need, and acceptance. Knowing how one is accepted and loved is easier to do in a well-defined ritual set up by sometimes-annoying cultural norms.</p>
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