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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/06/defending-privilege/comment-page-2/#comment-427800</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 21:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you cite a source for your claims RE Andrea Dworkin&#039;s view of hetereosexual sex?</description>
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		<title>By: Follow-up: Pro-rape advocacy, &#8220;male rights&#8221;, and rape culture &#171; Blue Linchpin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Follow-up: Pro-rape advocacy, &#8220;male rights&#8221;, and rape culture &#171; Blue Linchpin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And finally, I leave you with something chilling Eivind Berge stated: “More feminism will only produce more men like me.” Until inequality is challenged, things often seem to be just fine; when groups stand up and demand equality, we suddenly see how fiercely people will defend their privilege. —Sociological Images [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And finally, I leave you with something chilling Eivind Berge stated: “More feminism will only produce more men like me.” Until inequality is challenged, things often seem to be just fine; when groups stand up and demand equality, we suddenly see how fiercely people will defend their privilege. —Sociological Images [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Compton Cookout: Racism, Resistance, and Backlash &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/06/defending-privilege/comment-page-2/#comment-230892</link>
		<dc:creator>The Compton Cookout: Racism, Resistance, and Backlash &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Mr. Wasabi, the Black &#8220;Lil&#8217; Monkey&#8221; doll, and the Obama sock monkey) as well as anti-rape campaigns.  As I wrote in a previous post: &#8230;resistance to oppression is met with counter-resistance.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Mr. Wasabi, the Black &#8220;Lil&#8217; Monkey&#8221; doll, and the Obama sock monkey) as well as anti-rape campaigns.  As I wrote in a previous post: &#8230;resistance to oppression is met with counter-resistance.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Women's Historian</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/06/defending-privilege/comment-page-2/#comment-229526</link>
		<dc:creator>A Women's Historian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something similar happened when my women&#039;s group tried to put anti-sexual assault posters around our campus. We put up one poster (among many) that said, &quot;Rape is never okay!&quot; That&#039;s it. And then someone set it on fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something similar happened when my women&#8217;s group tried to put anti-sexual assault posters around our campus. We put up one poster (among many) that said, &#8220;Rape is never okay!&#8221; That&#8217;s it. And then someone set it on fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Alston Adams</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/06/defending-privilege/comment-page-2/#comment-184498</link>
		<dc:creator>Alston Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the second defacement could be seen as a brutally sexist description of men à la Andrea Dworkin&#039;s assertion that heterosexual sex is inherently rape. Het men are inherently rapists. Therefore this wouldn&#039;t be a defense of privilege but rather an inappropriate statement of &quot;resignation&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the second defacement could be seen as a brutally sexist description of men à la Andrea Dworkin&#8217;s assertion that heterosexual sex is inherently rape. Het men are inherently rapists. Therefore this wouldn&#8217;t be a defense of privilege but rather an inappropriate statement of &#8220;resignation&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Defending Mr Wasabi &#124; Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/06/defending-privilege/comment-page-2/#comment-184463</link>
		<dc:creator>Defending Mr Wasabi &#124; Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is a great example of the backlash that frequently occurs when power is threatened.  The company representative didn’t say “Gee, I’d hate to be racist, let me think about this” or even “I’m sorry you’re offended, but this is just what the logo is.”  He said, “You are the crazy person here. There is nothing wrong with our logo and how dare you even suggest that it is racist!  We are innocent and perfect with our Asian friends and you are totally out-of-line.  If anyone is racist, it is you.”  This is a common response when someone’s privilege is exposed: Everything goes along just fine until you ask for power relations to be reconfigured, and then you see the resistance.  For another example, see our post showing vandalized anti-rape posters. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is a great example of the backlash that frequently occurs when power is threatened.  The company representative didn’t say “Gee, I’d hate to be racist, let me think about this” or even “I’m sorry you’re offended, but this is just what the logo is.”  He said, “You are the crazy person here. There is nothing wrong with our logo and how dare you even suggest that it is racist!  We are innocent and perfect with our Asian friends and you are totally out-of-line.  If anyone is racist, it is you.”  This is a common response when someone’s privilege is exposed: Everything goes along just fine until you ask for power relations to be reconfigured, and then you see the resistance.  For another example, see our post showing vandalized anti-rape posters. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Grizzly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is absolutely no institutionalized prejudice against whites and men just for the simple fact that builders and maintainers of an institution cannnot discriminate against themselves.&quot;

I neither built nor maintained any institution.  I don&#039;t make any rules of society.  Like 99% of the men in the world, I try to live my life, be a good person, and treat others fairly.  Yet I am told that I have to sit down and shut up when I encounter discrimination simply based on the color of my skin or the status of my genetalia.  

&quot;if if weren’t for social rights activists who angered powerful people...&quot;

By all means, anger powerful people, fight the status quo.  But when you assume the methods of your oppressors, you lose credibility.  You become a hypocrite.

&quot;Has it occurred to you that one of the reasons you are able to be in a position to even apply to graduate school is because of your relative privileged social location?&quot;

The reason I could apply for graduate school is because both my parents and I worked hard to give me that opportunity.  I grew up in a blighted, poor, urban community.  Yet you are asking me to recognize some vague, nebulous benefit I have received because of what I look like.  Then I am supposed to weigh that against the definite and obvious financial benefit I am denied.

Or consider this, Bill Cosby&#039;s children would have been eligible for those scholarships.  I was not.  Is that fair?  Should I not have the right to complain?  Bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is absolutely no institutionalized prejudice against whites and men just for the simple fact that builders and maintainers of an institution cannnot discriminate against themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>I neither built nor maintained any institution.  I don&#8217;t make any rules of society.  Like 99% of the men in the world, I try to live my life, be a good person, and treat others fairly.  Yet I am told that I have to sit down and shut up when I encounter discrimination simply based on the color of my skin or the status of my genetalia.  </p>
<p>&#8220;if if weren’t for social rights activists who angered powerful people&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>By all means, anger powerful people, fight the status quo.  But when you assume the methods of your oppressors, you lose credibility.  You become a hypocrite.</p>
<p>&#8220;Has it occurred to you that one of the reasons you are able to be in a position to even apply to graduate school is because of your relative privileged social location?&#8221;</p>
<p>The reason I could apply for graduate school is because both my parents and I worked hard to give me that opportunity.  I grew up in a blighted, poor, urban community.  Yet you are asking me to recognize some vague, nebulous benefit I have received because of what I look like.  Then I am supposed to weigh that against the definite and obvious financial benefit I am denied.</p>
<p>Or consider this, Bill Cosby&#8217;s children would have been eligible for those scholarships.  I was not.  Is that fair?  Should I not have the right to complain?  Bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Sociological Images &#187; Resistance To Objectifying Advertising</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/06/defending-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-75201</link>
		<dc:creator>Sociological Images &#187; Resistance To Objectifying Advertising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For a classic example of a similar kind of public resistance, see this post.  For an example of backlash to public anti-sexist messages, see here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kurukurushoujo</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/06/defending-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-69763</link>
		<dc:creator>kurukurushoujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sry for the typos: it is supposed to be &quot;burden&quot; and not &quot;burned&quot; and the last word was supposed to be &quot;rights&quot; and not &quot;right&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sry for the typos: it is supposed to be &#8220;burden&#8221; and not &#8220;burned&#8221; and the last word was supposed to be &#8220;rights&#8221; and not &#8220;right&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: kurukurushoujo</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/02/06/defending-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-69758</link>
		<dc:creator>kurukurushoujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is absolutely no institutionalized prejudice against whites and men just for the simple fact that builders and maintainers of an institution cannnot discriminate against themselves. They can make their lives hell with stupidity, though. For example, when they realize that their insistence on the primary caregiver role of women backfires on them in court. Or when they oppose women&#039;s reproductive rights under the guise of &quot;disenfranchisement&quot; without realizing that nature has given women the absolute right to control humanity&#039;s reproductivity by placing the fetus in their wombs and not in men&#039;s. Nature obviously hates men, too. 

And I see the people crying about lack of sensitivity are already here, too. God help us, oppressed people are not sufficiently nice and comforting to the oppressor class. Now we cannot educate them anymore because their precious egos have been flattened- nevermind that a whole lot of them are not so keen about being educated to begin with, never mind that a large portion of them wouldn&#039;t even give a fuck if the world went to hell in a handbasket if it meant that they could use living people as doormats until the end of their lives. 
You want to learn? Then learn. Read. Think. Do not whine to people how nobody understands your heart-felt pain when you haven&#039;t made the slightest effort to educate yourself. Oppressed people have always served their oppressors without being given mercy and this education is just another kind of servitude that is meant to divert our attention from the pain that we suffer to the liberation of the already liberated so that once again our problems are put on the back-burner where they obviously belong because privileged people are so convinced of our subjugation that we aren&#039;t even allowed to take care of our own problems first. 
How do you think progress is made, exactly? By being nice? By always putting the considerations of other people first? If you really think that this is the case what twisted understanding of world history do you have? If oppressed people had always asked nicely for their rights while keeping in mind the horrible pain their oppressors feel (Yeah, right.) if if weren&#039;t for social rights activists who angered powerful people women would still not be allowed to vote, to own property and to work regularly against the will of their husbands, not to mention that rape within marriage would still be legal. There would still be segregation of the races and some well-off university-educated white professor would still argue that it was the white man&#039;s burned to forcibly educate the &quot;wild dark races&quot;.

I&#039;m so sick and tired of the desire of people to reverse reality so that it can conform to their wishes- it&#039;s disgusting and anti-progressive to only accept something that does not reflect negatively on you. Really now: fuck the rights of the people who think that their undeserved privileges were right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is absolutely no institutionalized prejudice against whites and men just for the simple fact that builders and maintainers of an institution cannnot discriminate against themselves. They can make their lives hell with stupidity, though. For example, when they realize that their insistence on the primary caregiver role of women backfires on them in court. Or when they oppose women&#8217;s reproductive rights under the guise of &#8220;disenfranchisement&#8221; without realizing that nature has given women the absolute right to control humanity&#8217;s reproductivity by placing the fetus in their wombs and not in men&#8217;s. Nature obviously hates men, too. </p>
<p>And I see the people crying about lack of sensitivity are already here, too. God help us, oppressed people are not sufficiently nice and comforting to the oppressor class. Now we cannot educate them anymore because their precious egos have been flattened- nevermind that a whole lot of them are not so keen about being educated to begin with, never mind that a large portion of them wouldn&#8217;t even give a fuck if the world went to hell in a handbasket if it meant that they could use living people as doormats until the end of their lives.<br />
You want to learn? Then learn. Read. Think. Do not whine to people how nobody understands your heart-felt pain when you haven&#8217;t made the slightest effort to educate yourself. Oppressed people have always served their oppressors without being given mercy and this education is just another kind of servitude that is meant to divert our attention from the pain that we suffer to the liberation of the already liberated so that once again our problems are put on the back-burner where they obviously belong because privileged people are so convinced of our subjugation that we aren&#8217;t even allowed to take care of our own problems first.<br />
How do you think progress is made, exactly? By being nice? By always putting the considerations of other people first? If you really think that this is the case what twisted understanding of world history do you have? If oppressed people had always asked nicely for their rights while keeping in mind the horrible pain their oppressors feel (Yeah, right.) if if weren&#8217;t for social rights activists who angered powerful people women would still not be allowed to vote, to own property and to work regularly against the will of their husbands, not to mention that rape within marriage would still be legal. There would still be segregation of the races and some well-off university-educated white professor would still argue that it was the white man&#8217;s burned to forcibly educate the &#8220;wild dark races&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sick and tired of the desire of people to reverse reality so that it can conform to their wishes- it&#8217;s disgusting and anti-progressive to only accept something that does not reflect negatively on you. Really now: fuck the rights of the people who think that their undeserved privileges were right.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan

Has it occurred to you that one of the reasons you are able to be in a position to even apply to graduate school is because of your relative privileged social location? Trying to equal the playing field does not equal discrimination.</description>
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<p>Has it occurred to you that one of the reasons you are able to be in a position to even apply to graduate school is because of your relative privileged social location? Trying to equal the playing field does not equal discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s not even sexist to say outright that “all men are rapists.” Because it’s impossible to have institutionalized bigotry against the group in power.&quot;

If my wife and I divorce, I am FAR more likely to lose custody of my children simply because I am a man. 

If I hit my wife, and the police are called; I am arrested.  If my wife beats me; I am forced to leave my house for the evening and find another place to stay so the situation can &quot;cool down.&quot;  

While applying for graduate school I obtained a list of available scholarships.  Of the 17 listed, 13 were for minorities only (although I expect this is obvious, I will point out that none were for whites only).

A pregnant woman can get an abortion, or give the child up for adoption without even needing to inform the man who got her pregnant that he is a father.  She can opt out of parenthood at any time.  A man is legally tied to the child from the moment of conception, and if he shuns that responsibility; he is considered a deadbeat, his name is printed in the paper, and is ostracized by society.

Prostate cancer kills about the same number of men as breast cancer kills women, yet receives about a 10th of the funding.

There are innumerous examples of institutionalized prejudice against whites and/or men; the fact that you are too obtuse to recognize that doesn&#039;t make it any less true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s not even sexist to say outright that “all men are rapists.” Because it’s impossible to have institutionalized bigotry against the group in power.&#8221;</p>
<p>If my wife and I divorce, I am FAR more likely to lose custody of my children simply because I am a man. </p>
<p>If I hit my wife, and the police are called; I am arrested.  If my wife beats me; I am forced to leave my house for the evening and find another place to stay so the situation can &#8220;cool down.&#8221;  </p>
<p>While applying for graduate school I obtained a list of available scholarships.  Of the 17 listed, 13 were for minorities only (although I expect this is obvious, I will point out that none were for whites only).</p>
<p>A pregnant woman can get an abortion, or give the child up for adoption without even needing to inform the man who got her pregnant that he is a father.  She can opt out of parenthood at any time.  A man is legally tied to the child from the moment of conception, and if he shuns that responsibility; he is considered a deadbeat, his name is printed in the paper, and is ostracized by society.</p>
<p>Prostate cancer kills about the same number of men as breast cancer kills women, yet receives about a 10th of the funding.</p>
<p>There are innumerous examples of institutionalized prejudice against whites and/or men; the fact that you are too obtuse to recognize that doesn&#8217;t make it any less true.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More backlash in the form of defaced anti-sexist stickers, these from Seattle...
http://www.rebelliouspixels.com/2009/defaced-anti-sexist-stickers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More backlash in the form of defaced anti-sexist stickers, these from Seattle&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.rebelliouspixels.com/2009/defaced-anti-sexist-stickers" rel="nofollow">http://www.rebelliouspixels.com/2009/defaced-anti-sexist-stickers</a></p>
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		<title>By: Inter-sex and inter-gender solidarity ? &#124; Toban Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inter-sex and inter-gender solidarity ? &#124; Toban Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taken at the university campus here in London, Ontario, Canada - - Sociological Images - &#8220;Defending privilege&#8221; - Feministe - &#8220;Anti-Feminist Vandalism&#8221; - The F-Word - &#8220;Real men and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] taken at the university campus here in London, Ontario, Canada &#8211; - Sociological Images &#8211; &#8220;Defending privilege&#8221; &#8211; Feministe &#8211; &#8220;Anti-Feminist Vandalism&#8221; &#8211; The F-Word &#8211; &#8220;Real men and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MxJxN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MxJxN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The second alteration, thats not cool. 


The first one might have taken off myself.

Why? I say ___
 &quot;Join real society&quot;, with a monkey behind it? 
I wonder, who do these people think they are?
Who do they think they are talking to?
THEY need to show a little respect. Regular People are not this stupid.
____
Remember the Golden rule? &quot;Do not do to others what would anger you if done to you by others.&quot; as Isocrates said. The rule is born from philosophies and religions all over the world. Go read some quotes. http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc.htm

My personal advice is this__
Be a good person who respects people and that people have opinions and beliefs. Share your understanding with people who dont see where you&#039;re coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second alteration, thats not cool. </p>
<p>The first one might have taken off myself.</p>
<p>Why? I say ___<br />
 &#8220;Join real society&#8221;, with a monkey behind it?<br />
I wonder, who do these people think they are?<br />
Who do they think they are talking to?<br />
THEY need to show a little respect. Regular People are not this stupid.<br />
____<br />
Remember the Golden rule? &#8220;Do not do to others what would anger you if done to you by others.&#8221; as Isocrates said. The rule is born from philosophies and religions all over the world. Go read some quotes. <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc.htm</a></p>
<p>My personal advice is this__<br />
Be a good person who respects people and that people have opinions and beliefs. Share your understanding with people who dont see where you&#8217;re coming from.</p>
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