<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:creativeCommons="http://backend.userland.com/creativeCommonsRssModule"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Sex and Power in a Campari Calendar</title>
	<atom:link href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/</link>
	<description>Sociological Images encourages people to exercise and develop their sociological imaginations with discussions of compelling visuals that span the breadth of sociological inquiry.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 10:55:10 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	
	<item>
		<title>By: #LadyPornDay A short history of watching porn &#124; Saskia Vogel</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-454847</link>
		<dc:creator>#LadyPornDay A short history of watching porn &#124; Saskia Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-454847</guid>
		<description>[...] (Image source) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Image source) [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: OBJECTIFYING MEN &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-190109</link>
		<dc:creator>OBJECTIFYING MEN &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-190109</guid>
		<description>[...] see these ads and these two posts (here and here) on ads that portray women dominating or in-charge-of men.        43 Comments     Tags: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] see these ads and these two posts (here and here) on ads that portray women dominating or in-charge-of men.        43 Comments     Tags: [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-90052</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-90052</guid>
		<description>sex working in vegina &amp; mouth nakedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sex working in vegina &amp; mouth nakedly.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: maymay</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6137</link>
		<dc:creator>maymay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6137</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But somehow the image doesn’t seem like it’s targeted to women or meant to represent a female sexual fantasy. To me, the image is still targeting men&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is absolutely what is going on here, and it happens &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; over the place. I recently created &lt;a href=&quot;http://MaleSubmissionArt.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a new blog that examines this very issue&lt;/a&gt; deliberately, and deals explicitly with ideas of sex and power as it relates to masculinity in pornography. You may find it of interest, but it is not at all &quot;safe for work.&quot; ;)

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But somehow the image doesn’t seem like it’s targeted to women or meant to represent a female sexual fantasy. To me, the image is still targeting men</p></blockquote>
<p>This is absolutely what is going on here, and it happens <em>all</em> over the place. I recently created <a href="http://MaleSubmissionArt.com/" rel="nofollow">a new blog that examines this very issue</a> deliberately, and deals explicitly with ideas of sex and power as it relates to masculinity in pornography. You may find it of interest, but it is not at all &#8220;safe for work.&#8221; ;)</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mickle</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6124</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6124</guid>
		<description>ack! apologies for the spelling and grammar errors.  That&#039;s what I get for trying to write a manifesto on someone else&#039;s blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ack! apologies for the spelling and grammar errors.  That&#8217;s what I get for trying to write a manifesto on someone else&#8217;s blog.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mickle</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6123</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6123</guid>
		<description>&quot;So basically in both cases, the women must always be attractive to cater to the male audience, but the same cannot be said for the men.&quot;

Bingo.

I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if whoever designed that first picture &lt;i&gt;meant&lt;/i&gt; for it to appeal to women, but it doesn&#039;t really reverse the tables nearly enough to work (for me).  It&#039;s not just the amount and type of clothes, it&#039;s also everyone&#039;s posture, clothing and gaze

When photos/ads have multiple women in a similar situation, at least one, if not several, of the women are gazing at the viewer - including the viewer in the fantasy.  All the other women are not only gazing at the man (or sometimes each other), their entire bodies are focused on his existence, emphasizing the idea that they are there simply to serve the man&#039;s (viewer&#039;s) fantasy.  The man in the middle is usually aloof and may be looking at the women, may be looking off at nothing, but is pretty much never looking at the viewer - making eye contact with the viewer would spoil the illusion that he is simply the magic mirror image of the viewer.

In this photo, there is only one guy actually looking at Mendes (I think it&#039;s supposed to be two, but the eyeline is totally wrong).  And neither he nor the guy clostest to him are gazing adoringly, they both look bored as hell - especially compared to &lt;i&gt;her&lt;/i&gt; bright smile.  The guy in the front is even more bored and even less interested in Mendes.  &lt;b&gt;No one&lt;/b&gt; is interested in the viewer.

Needless to say, no guy in the middle would ever be posed in a &quot;look at me&quot; kind of way as Mendes is (turned so you can see her breasts, the curve of her hip, and a hint of her butt).  The women, however, would be.  The guys in this photo very much aren&#039;t.  They have their shirts off, that&#039;s pretty much it.  Instead of the postures emphasizing their nakedness and willingness to fulfill Mendes&#039; fantasy, they minimize it.  Their drinks and arms cover parts of their shirtless chests - unlike Mendes arms, which are thoughtfully placed to the side of her body.  The only guy whose body is turned towards Mendes is the one she can&#039;t see at all because he&#039;s behind her.

Also, their thematic decorations are placed in such a way as to distract from the architecture of their bodies rather than enhance their beauty.  (Very unlike Mendes&#039; werewolf scratches in the other photo, which are placed and designed to emphasize the bareness of her back and the lines of her dress and body.)  The only guy whose arms are not covering his chest and whose decorations are the least distracting is the same one whose body is cut off by the cut of the photo and who is the least interested in Mendes.

And then, to top it off, Mendes is looking at us, the viewer, (her eyes are mostly closed, but that is their direction of her gaze and where her smile is pointed at) thus spoiling any illusion that we could &lt;i&gt;be&lt;/i&gt; her.

If this photo &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; meant to appeal to (straight) women, whoever took it needs to go back to school.  The half naked guys will certainly catch most women&#039;s attention, but the lack of fantasy building means it does a poor job of selling the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So basically in both cases, the women must always be attractive to cater to the male audience, but the same cannot be said for the men.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if whoever designed that first picture <i>meant</i> for it to appeal to women, but it doesn&#8217;t really reverse the tables nearly enough to work (for me).  It&#8217;s not just the amount and type of clothes, it&#8217;s also everyone&#8217;s posture, clothing and gaze</p>
<p>When photos/ads have multiple women in a similar situation, at least one, if not several, of the women are gazing at the viewer &#8211; including the viewer in the fantasy.  All the other women are not only gazing at the man (or sometimes each other), their entire bodies are focused on his existence, emphasizing the idea that they are there simply to serve the man&#8217;s (viewer&#8217;s) fantasy.  The man in the middle is usually aloof and may be looking at the women, may be looking off at nothing, but is pretty much never looking at the viewer &#8211; making eye contact with the viewer would spoil the illusion that he is simply the magic mirror image of the viewer.</p>
<p>In this photo, there is only one guy actually looking at Mendes (I think it&#8217;s supposed to be two, but the eyeline is totally wrong).  And neither he nor the guy clostest to him are gazing adoringly, they both look bored as hell &#8211; especially compared to <i>her</i> bright smile.  The guy in the front is even more bored and even less interested in Mendes.  <b>No one</b> is interested in the viewer.</p>
<p>Needless to say, no guy in the middle would ever be posed in a &#8220;look at me&#8221; kind of way as Mendes is (turned so you can see her breasts, the curve of her hip, and a hint of her butt).  The women, however, would be.  The guys in this photo very much aren&#8217;t.  They have their shirts off, that&#8217;s pretty much it.  Instead of the postures emphasizing their nakedness and willingness to fulfill Mendes&#8217; fantasy, they minimize it.  Their drinks and arms cover parts of their shirtless chests &#8211; unlike Mendes arms, which are thoughtfully placed to the side of her body.  The only guy whose body is turned towards Mendes is the one she can&#8217;t see at all because he&#8217;s behind her.</p>
<p>Also, their thematic decorations are placed in such a way as to distract from the architecture of their bodies rather than enhance their beauty.  (Very unlike Mendes&#8217; werewolf scratches in the other photo, which are placed and designed to emphasize the bareness of her back and the lines of her dress and body.)  The only guy whose arms are not covering his chest and whose decorations are the least distracting is the same one whose body is cut off by the cut of the photo and who is the least interested in Mendes.</p>
<p>And then, to top it off, Mendes is looking at us, the viewer, (her eyes are mostly closed, but that is their direction of her gaze and where her smile is pointed at) thus spoiling any illusion that we could <i>be</i> her.</p>
<p>If this photo <i>was</i> meant to appeal to (straight) women, whoever took it needs to go back to school.  The half naked guys will certainly catch most women&#8217;s attention, but the lack of fantasy building means it does a poor job of selling the product.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CParis</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6105</link>
		<dc:creator>CParis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6105</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure the target drinker for Campari is primarily women, not men.  These shots were designed as individual ads to appeal to women.  The women are shown as in control with a bunch of good looking guys - works for me!  

They probably put the series together as a giveaway calendar for retailers, etc - mostly men - I&#039;m sure they figured most (straight) guys are not going to turn down pictures of Alba, Mendes or Hayak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure the target drinker for Campari is primarily women, not men.  These shots were designed as individual ads to appeal to women.  The women are shown as in control with a bunch of good looking guys &#8211; works for me!  </p>
<p>They probably put the series together as a giveaway calendar for retailers, etc &#8211; mostly men &#8211; I&#8217;m sure they figured most (straight) guys are not going to turn down pictures of Alba, Mendes or Hayak.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Doctor Jay</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6101</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6101</guid>
		<description>I&#039;d have to say the last image that you show is simply an all-around failure.  Why would you want to associate that image with their product?  Which person in that ad would anyone want to identify with?

The men aren&#039;t even really people, you can&#039;t see all of their faces.  They are just symbols.   Salma Hayek does not look like she&#039;s having a good time any more, maybe she did a while back.   In every other photo, I can imagine someone wanting to be the woman in the photograph, they all seem to be having fun on their own terms.  But not that last.  Who on earth thought that photograph would sell liquor?  Particularly to women?  Maybe it&#039;s intended for &quot;balance&quot; as a &quot;warning&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say the last image that you show is simply an all-around failure.  Why would you want to associate that image with their product?  Which person in that ad would anyone want to identify with?</p>
<p>The men aren&#8217;t even really people, you can&#8217;t see all of their faces.  They are just symbols.   Salma Hayek does not look like she&#8217;s having a good time any more, maybe she did a while back.   In every other photo, I can imagine someone wanting to be the woman in the photograph, they all seem to be having fun on their own terms.  But not that last.  Who on earth thought that photograph would sell liquor?  Particularly to women?  Maybe it&#8217;s intended for &#8220;balance&#8221; as a &#8220;warning&#8221;?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ole</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6097</link>
		<dc:creator>Ole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6097</guid>
		<description>About the first 2 pictures: There&#039;s nothing new about them for sociologists to study. This imagery has been around for generations now - surely, someone here must know Marilyn Monroe&#039;s &quot;Diamonds are a girl&#039;s best friend&quot; for example: Same type of setting: A glamorous lady &quot;plays&quot; a bunch of &quot;hunks&quot;, using her sexuality (wrong word: her awareness of being sexually desirable) as a means to have fun, toy with the men (getting a temporary &quot;power&quot; over them) and ... get material stuff from them. Same theme has been in lots of Broadway and other show-things for at least half a century. 

I do believe though, that it went &quot;out of style&quot; during the 80s and on, I might be wrong, but it seems to me that American culture had somewhat of a regression in terms of &quot;sexual liberation&quot; and female empowerment portrayed in Hollywood etc I&#039;m not saying that these are actual indications of actual liberation and empowerment -  but they do break away from the &quot;woman belongs in the kitchen, dreaming of the white prince/doctor&quot; kind of thinking that seems to me to have reappeared in the US.

Maybe the 50s and 60s are coming back in popular culture? I know I&#039;m going off on a tangent here, but there were more women in leading (and strong) roles in movies back then, than there were in the 80s and 90s and today. I think that is interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the first 2 pictures: There&#8217;s nothing new about them for sociologists to study. This imagery has been around for generations now &#8211; surely, someone here must know Marilyn Monroe&#8217;s &#8220;Diamonds are a girl&#8217;s best friend&#8221; for example: Same type of setting: A glamorous lady &#8220;plays&#8221; a bunch of &#8220;hunks&#8221;, using her sexuality (wrong word: her awareness of being sexually desirable) as a means to have fun, toy with the men (getting a temporary &#8220;power&#8221; over them) and &#8230; get material stuff from them. Same theme has been in lots of Broadway and other show-things for at least half a century. </p>
<p>I do believe though, that it went &#8220;out of style&#8221; during the 80s and on, I might be wrong, but it seems to me that American culture had somewhat of a regression in terms of &#8220;sexual liberation&#8221; and female empowerment portrayed in Hollywood etc I&#8217;m not saying that these are actual indications of actual liberation and empowerment &#8211;  but they do break away from the &#8220;woman belongs in the kitchen, dreaming of the white prince/doctor&#8221; kind of thinking that seems to me to have reappeared in the US.</p>
<p>Maybe the 50s and 60s are coming back in popular culture? I know I&#8217;m going off on a tangent here, but there were more women in leading (and strong) roles in movies back then, than there were in the 80s and 90s and today. I think that is interesting.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: thewhatifgirl</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6074</link>
		<dc:creator>thewhatifgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6074</guid>
		<description>I see an attempt at displaying a kind of strength in the third and fourth ads.  In the third ad, rather than looking terrified as one might expect if strong, angry-looking strangers were hovering around you in the dark, she looks completely unafraid - even excited.  While I can absolutely see the possible fear in this picture for women who are looking at it, it signifies even more to me a freedom from fear.  

And in the ad with the werewolf, in spite of the very large cuts on her back, she&#039;s not even flinching - which could be interpreted to signify toughness.  There&#039;s also fearlessness here, since she is embracing the werewolf.  It&#039;s less sexualized to me as well; my attention is drawn to the expression on her face - which isn&#039;t as blank or serious as in the following ads - and the scratches on her back, rather than her body in any kind of sexual display.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see an attempt at displaying a kind of strength in the third and fourth ads.  In the third ad, rather than looking terrified as one might expect if strong, angry-looking strangers were hovering around you in the dark, she looks completely unafraid &#8211; even excited.  While I can absolutely see the possible fear in this picture for women who are looking at it, it signifies even more to me a freedom from fear.  </p>
<p>And in the ad with the werewolf, in spite of the very large cuts on her back, she&#8217;s not even flinching &#8211; which could be interpreted to signify toughness.  There&#8217;s also fearlessness here, since she is embracing the werewolf.  It&#8217;s less sexualized to me as well; my attention is drawn to the expression on her face &#8211; which isn&#8217;t as blank or serious as in the following ads &#8211; and the scratches on her back, rather than her body in any kind of sexual display.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Barbar</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6066</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6066</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;If ads that show men with multiple women in a sexual situation seem to draw on ideas of women as sexual conquests for men, does the opposite images–a woman with multiple men–automatically mean a reversal of all power in the relationship?&lt;/i&gt;

My interpretation: while an ad with a man and multiple women may draw on certain male sexual fantasies and can properly be interpreted in that fashion, an ad with &quot;inverted imagery&quot; may be simply that -- an advertisement that inverts the &quot;conventional&quot; images, to get your attention.  The pattern of the inversions may be of some interest (for example, it may be interesting to observe how &quot;empowered&quot; women are portrayed, as the update notes) but the inverted image isn&#039;t necessarily much more than that, an inversion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If ads that show men with multiple women in a sexual situation seem to draw on ideas of women as sexual conquests for men, does the opposite images–a woman with multiple men–automatically mean a reversal of all power in the relationship?</i></p>
<p>My interpretation: while an ad with a man and multiple women may draw on certain male sexual fantasies and can properly be interpreted in that fashion, an ad with &#8220;inverted imagery&#8221; may be simply that &#8212; an advertisement that inverts the &#8220;conventional&#8221; images, to get your attention.  The pattern of the inversions may be of some interest (for example, it may be interesting to observe how &#8220;empowered&#8221; women are portrayed, as the update notes) but the inverted image isn&#8217;t necessarily much more than that, an inversion.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Caitlan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6061</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6061</guid>
		<description>I think in the ocean one she has caught them, like lobsters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in the ocean one she has caught them, like lobsters?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: gwen</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6060</link>
		<dc:creator>gwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6060</guid>
		<description>Oh, I think we&#039;re actually meaning something similar, and that I did a crappy job of nailing down quite what I was intending to say--I wasn&#039;t thinking of it as power or control in a literal sense, but in the broader sense you point out. You express the point much more clearly and usefully than I did. I added quite a bit of your last comment to the post.

Just for the record, when I asked what people thought, I really meant it. I think it came off as a rhetorical question--that I was pretending to be interested in what people thought when I already had a very firm opinion--but I really wasn&#039;t quite sure what I thought about it, just that it kept nagging at me, especially in the context of the entire calendar. And I&#039;ve found that commenters often elucidate ideas I&#039;m thinking about but haven&#039;t quite figured out yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I think we&#8217;re actually meaning something similar, and that I did a crappy job of nailing down quite what I was intending to say&#8211;I wasn&#8217;t thinking of it as power or control in a literal sense, but in the broader sense you point out. You express the point much more clearly and usefully than I did. I added quite a bit of your last comment to the post.</p>
<p>Just for the record, when I asked what people thought, I really meant it. I think it came off as a rhetorical question&#8211;that I was pretending to be interested in what people thought when I already had a very firm opinion&#8211;but I really wasn&#8217;t quite sure what I thought about it, just that it kept nagging at me, especially in the context of the entire calendar. And I&#8217;ve found that commenters often elucidate ideas I&#8217;m thinking about but haven&#8217;t quite figured out yet.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dubi</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6057</link>
		<dc:creator>Dubi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6057</guid>
		<description>Gwen, I&#039;m certainly not saying that I couldn&#039;t imagine an image of one woman and several men that would imply anything BUT empowerment of the woman (e.g., the last image in this post), but the first one (and second) simply doesn&#039;t seem to me to fit your interpretation in any reasonable manner. The positioning of the men (what is that guy on the right doing with his hand?), their white spa-like pants, the pillowy bed, the way they look at the woman (not with lust but with adoration), the card-thing - even the bottle near her crotch, that you interpreted as &quot;pointing&quot; at her crotch could be interpreted rather as a metaphoric phallus of HERS (that she uses to dominate the men).
So, essentially, NOTHING in this image strikes me as putting the woman in a subordinate position, and nothing about it strikes me as a male fantasy, since, as you noted, usually the woman in such a situation is much less revered and much more ridiculed by the bonding men, even if she consents to the act.

As a concluding remark, I would like to point out that women&#039;s empowerment as it is often portrayed in the media still requires them to be constantly sexual - so it isn&#039;t really empowering at all. A powerful woman in popular culture is a female version of the macho, rather than an articulate, smart, self-sufficient individual (I&#039;d use the word &quot;independent&quot;, but even that word has been subverted to mean &quot;sexually liberated&quot; in most places I see it). The catch is that men easily adjust to see &quot;sexually empowered&quot; women as, yet again, sexual objects, so even though women who seek out Sex and the City-like empowerment may feel liberated, this liberation is false: women are simply being allowed to travel between two points that are still exciting for men (the timid wife or the &quot;strong&quot; temptress).

The question, then, shouldn&#039;t be which party is the &quot;stronger&quot; one in this patently sexual scene, but rather why are women always required to be portrayed as at least potentially sexual (I&#039;d link back to that ad where the woman &quot;scientist&quot; is transformed into a dancing bombshell by whatever it was, but I&#039;m lazy).

Not that I need to tell you any of that, I guess, but I just thought I&#039;d mention that this debate is really irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gwen, I&#8217;m certainly not saying that I couldn&#8217;t imagine an image of one woman and several men that would imply anything BUT empowerment of the woman (e.g., the last image in this post), but the first one (and second) simply doesn&#8217;t seem to me to fit your interpretation in any reasonable manner. The positioning of the men (what is that guy on the right doing with his hand?), their white spa-like pants, the pillowy bed, the way they look at the woman (not with lust but with adoration), the card-thing &#8211; even the bottle near her crotch, that you interpreted as &#8220;pointing&#8221; at her crotch could be interpreted rather as a metaphoric phallus of HERS (that she uses to dominate the men).<br />
So, essentially, NOTHING in this image strikes me as putting the woman in a subordinate position, and nothing about it strikes me as a male fantasy, since, as you noted, usually the woman in such a situation is much less revered and much more ridiculed by the bonding men, even if she consents to the act.</p>
<p>As a concluding remark, I would like to point out that women&#8217;s empowerment as it is often portrayed in the media still requires them to be constantly sexual &#8211; so it isn&#8217;t really empowering at all. A powerful woman in popular culture is a female version of the macho, rather than an articulate, smart, self-sufficient individual (I&#8217;d use the word &#8220;independent&#8221;, but even that word has been subverted to mean &#8220;sexually liberated&#8221; in most places I see it). The catch is that men easily adjust to see &#8220;sexually empowered&#8221; women as, yet again, sexual objects, so even though women who seek out Sex and the City-like empowerment may feel liberated, this liberation is false: women are simply being allowed to travel between two points that are still exciting for men (the timid wife or the &#8220;strong&#8221; temptress).</p>
<p>The question, then, shouldn&#8217;t be which party is the &#8220;stronger&#8221; one in this patently sexual scene, but rather why are women always required to be portrayed as at least potentially sexual (I&#8217;d link back to that ad where the woman &#8220;scientist&#8221; is transformed into a dancing bombshell by whatever it was, but I&#8217;m lazy).</p>
<p>Not that I need to tell you any of that, I guess, but I just thought I&#8217;d mention that this debate is really irrelevant.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Xiphactinus audax</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/01/15/sex-and-power-in-a-campari-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-6055</link>
		<dc:creator>Xiphactinus audax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=5922#comment-6055</guid>
		<description>imo, the 3rd and 4th image play on the &quot;dark/mysterious/&#039;dangerous&#039; man&quot; archetype that seems to be so popular with women these days (see also: Twilight)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imo, the 3rd and 4th image play on the &#8220;dark/mysterious/&#8217;dangerous&#8217; man&#8221; archetype that seems to be so popular with women these days (see also: Twilight)&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

