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	<title>Comments on: Caroline Cossey, Transsexual Model</title>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-211322</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe transsexuals make some of the most sexiest models , they seem to want to take better care of themselves and care about how they look. I think they are exotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe transsexuals make some of the most sexiest models , they seem to want to take better care of themselves and care about how they look. I think they are exotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Turner</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-158457</link>
		<dc:creator>Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caroline cossey is the most beautiful woman in the whole wide world. BEAUTIFUL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caroline cossey is the most beautiful woman in the whole wide world. BEAUTIFUL!</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Brain</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-128470</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, because she&#039;s intersexed with 47xxy chromosomes rather than 46xx(usually female) or 46xy(usually male), she is not counted as being transsexual in the UK. So she cannot have her (male) birth certificate amended, unlike transsexuals. Even ones who do not desire surgery.

It is ironic that it was the inhumanity of her treatment by the courts that caused the UK authorities to change the existing law to benefit trans people. Then they left not so much a loophole as a great gap that excluded her from benefiting as well.

I have a different Intersex syndrome (there&#039;s over a hundred of them) but I&#039;m in the same situation. In the UK I could only marry another woman as same-sex marriage is forbidden, but my UK passport says &quot;F&quot; based on biological reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, because she&#8217;s intersexed with 47xxy chromosomes rather than 46xx(usually female) or 46xy(usually male), she is not counted as being transsexual in the UK. So she cannot have her (male) birth certificate amended, unlike transsexuals. Even ones who do not desire surgery.</p>
<p>It is ironic that it was the inhumanity of her treatment by the courts that caused the UK authorities to change the existing law to benefit trans people. Then they left not so much a loophole as a great gap that excluded her from benefiting as well.</p>
<p>I have a different Intersex syndrome (there&#8217;s over a hundred of them) but I&#8217;m in the same situation. In the UK I could only marry another woman as same-sex marriage is forbidden, but my UK passport says &#8220;F&#8221; based on biological reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-127917</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general, transsexual women are sexier and more beautiful by far than genetic women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, transsexual women are sexier and more beautiful by far than genetic women.</p>
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		<title>By: American Women Athletes Part Two: How intersex athletes are punished by the gender testing system &#124; The Angry Black Woman</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-111771</link>
		<dc:creator>American Women Athletes Part Two: How intersex athletes are punished by the gender testing system &#124; The Angry Black Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aren’t binary. Examples of “syndromes” that disrupt these trajectories abound (e.g., Klinefelter’s syndrome). And all kinds of practices, including surgeries, are sometimes used to force a binary when there [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] aren’t binary. Examples of “syndromes” that disrupt these trajectories abound (e.g., Klinefelter’s syndrome). And all kinds of practices, including surgeries, are sometimes used to force a binary when there [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eddiej</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-105966</link>
		<dc:creator>eddiej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 05:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>binary code  12;23 Eddiej love my gurl i am her she is me, STEVE H PORTRAYED IT BEST. Hatred of the feminate side of the male.Is the true begining of predjudice, and of GODS creation.For we are all creatsed in HIS immage and likeness, food for fem men, masculine women.GENETICS is given not taken all dna originates in Etheopia. An biblical kings had many wives hardly ever the same racial make up.I support my gurl she is beautiful, in side a true woman as well as her shell. She portugese mexican, he french canadian native north american indian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>binary code  12;23 Eddiej love my gurl i am her she is me, STEVE H PORTRAYED IT BEST. Hatred of the feminate side of the male.Is the true begining of predjudice, and of GODS creation.For we are all creatsed in HIS immage and likeness, food for fem men, masculine women.GENETICS is given not taken all dna originates in Etheopia. An biblical kings had many wives hardly ever the same racial make up.I support my gurl she is beautiful, in side a true woman as well as her shell. She portugese mexican, he french canadian native north american indian!</p>
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		<title>By: The Question Of Caster Semenya&#8217;s Sex &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-102722</link>
		<dc:creator>The Question Of Caster Semenya&#8217;s Sex &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] binary.  Examples of &#8220;syndromes&#8221; that disrupt these trajectories abound (e.g., Klinefelter&#8217;s syndrome).  And all kinds of practices, including surgeries, are sometimes used to force a binary when [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] binary.  Examples of &#8220;syndromes&#8221; that disrupt these trajectories abound (e.g., Klinefelter&#8217;s syndrome).  And all kinds of practices, including surgeries, are sometimes used to force a binary when [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MidSouth Mouth</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-28451</link>
		<dc:creator>MidSouth Mouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some critical analysis of public/private and class and birth-gender differences is also useful... not rank oppressions but to accurately describe lived experiences and societal patterns...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some critical analysis of public/private and class and birth-gender differences is also useful&#8230; not rank oppressions but to accurately describe lived experiences and societal patterns&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: inhabited_world</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2401</link>
		<dc:creator>inhabited_world</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it a little silly to draw parallels between Tula and Brandon Teena, simply because both happen to be trans? Yes, both were subject to the notion hard-wired into our society of &quot;real&quot; gender being one&#039;s biological sex, and both were victimized by the widespread discrimination prevalent toward trans people, but...um, Brandon Teena was raped and murdered, not &quot;outed&quot; by mass media. They&#039;re two different situations, and it seems weird (to me, at least) to compare them in this sense, unless the conversation is focusing on the concept of &quot;biology as destiny&quot; as propagated today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it a little silly to draw parallels between Tula and Brandon Teena, simply because both happen to be trans? Yes, both were subject to the notion hard-wired into our society of &#8220;real&#8221; gender being one&#8217;s biological sex, and both were victimized by the widespread discrimination prevalent toward trans people, but&#8230;um, Brandon Teena was raped and murdered, not &#8220;outed&#8221; by mass media. They&#8217;re two different situations, and it seems weird (to me, at least) to compare them in this sense, unless the conversation is focusing on the concept of &#8220;biology as destiny&#8221; as propagated today.</p>
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		<title>By: Pop Feminist</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1537</link>
		<dc:creator>Pop Feminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Thanks for this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Thanks for this!</p>
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		<title>By: Pitseleh</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1532</link>
		<dc:creator>Pitseleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine much of the same thing. Even though women are praised for looking androgynous, and at times looking &quot;draggy&quot;, a women can look too &quot;draggy&quot;. From my analysis, I find that women are supposed to be able to pose in both &quot;woman&#039;s&quot; mags and &quot;men&#039;s&quot; mags. The first is to be the type of woman other women want to be, the second is to be the kind of woman a man wants to &quot;get with.&quot; Since our common perceptions of sex are still binary, the perception would probably be that no &quot;woman&quot; would want to be Tula, and no &quot;man&quot; would want to be with Tula. 

There may be a market for Tula today, but I wouldn&#039;t think she would grace the pages of fashion mags. Instead, she may be relegated to posing for mags that have an audience of transgendered/sexed individuals. But, I&#039;m just guessing here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine much of the same thing. Even though women are praised for looking androgynous, and at times looking &#8220;draggy&#8221;, a women can look too &#8220;draggy&#8221;. From my analysis, I find that women are supposed to be able to pose in both &#8220;woman&#8217;s&#8221; mags and &#8220;men&#8217;s&#8221; mags. The first is to be the type of woman other women want to be, the second is to be the kind of woman a man wants to &#8220;get with.&#8221; Since our common perceptions of sex are still binary, the perception would probably be that no &#8220;woman&#8221; would want to be Tula, and no &#8220;man&#8221; would want to be with Tula. </p>
<p>There may be a market for Tula today, but I wouldn&#8217;t think she would grace the pages of fashion mags. Instead, she may be relegated to posing for mags that have an audience of transgendered/sexed individuals. But, I&#8217;m just guessing here.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwen</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting. It seems like it&#039;s ok to LOOK androgynous (at least on the runway), but from a public perspective, models still need to be unambiguously female, and transsexuals don&#039;t count.

Of course, it&#039;s also possible things have changed significantly since the early 1980s. I wonder what would happen if the same situation occurred today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting. It seems like it&#8217;s ok to LOOK androgynous (at least on the runway), but from a public perspective, models still need to be unambiguously female, and transsexuals don&#8217;t count.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s also possible things have changed significantly since the early 1980s. I wonder what would happen if the same situation occurred today.</p>
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		<title>By: Pitseleh</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/01/caroline-cossey-transsexual-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1518</link>
		<dc:creator>Pitseleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been working for a while (on and off) on a content analysis of America&#039;s Next Top Model (worse of all reality TV) on the construction of beauty (race, class and gender and how it applies). One of the most often compliments that is also a critique is how one of the models looks &quot;draggish.&quot; Comments also abound about how great it is when a model looks androgynous and how great it is to be able to look like a girlish boy. I didn&#039;t know about this model, but it seems to fit well into this idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been working for a while (on and off) on a content analysis of America&#8217;s Next Top Model (worse of all reality TV) on the construction of beauty (race, class and gender and how it applies). One of the most often compliments that is also a critique is how one of the models looks &#8220;draggish.&#8221; Comments also abound about how great it is when a model looks androgynous and how great it is to be able to look like a girlish boy. I didn&#8217;t know about this model, but it seems to fit well into this idea.</p>
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