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	<title>Comments on: Onslaught: Dove vs. Axe</title>
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		<title>By: SCANNING TEH POLITIX IN/OF GLITCH PANEL 2011 &#8211; Presentation Slides + Notes &#124; Marta Blicharz &#124; Blog</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-526402</link>
		<dc:creator>SCANNING TEH POLITIX IN/OF GLITCH PANEL 2011 &#8211; Presentation Slides + Notes &#124; Marta Blicharz &#124; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 05:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/" rel="nofollow">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Well</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-501638</link>
		<dc:creator>Well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 21:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like an MRA persecution fantasy. In reality, all feminist sites, blogs, speakers and books I&#039;ve seen point out that patriarchy hurts men too. I think you&#039;ll find feminists quite a receptive audience for the tribulations of men in society today. How many feminists list Fight Club as one of their favorite movies, I wonder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like an MRA persecution fantasy. In reality, all feminist sites, blogs, speakers and books I&#8217;ve seen point out that patriarchy hurts men too. I think you&#8217;ll find feminists quite a receptive audience for the tribulations of men in society today. How many feminists list Fight Club as one of their favorite movies, I wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: Well</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-501635</link>
		<dc:creator>Well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Dove’s message is not invalidated by Axe’s misogyny any more than it is invalidated by those Bud Light commercials. Don’t punish Dove for being under the Unilever umbrella any more than you’d praise Axe for it. If anything we should be praising Dove’s marketing director for making such a radical perspective mainstream.”

Typical consumerist apologetics, I’m afraid. If someone points out a major problem in society, you can’t wave it away by saying, “hey, that’s just how our economic system works”, because our economic system was put together by a relatively small group of dead people, and living people can build a new one that serves our needs better. Besides, as someone noted earlier in the thread, the Dove ad is only “radical” from the “perspective” of the “mainstream”: their models still conform to roughly the same beauty standards and apparently the making of the ads is something like a dishonest softcore porn shoot. There’s nothing revolutionary here, except the implication of what we should do to Unilever and other megacorporations that set the agenda while teaching us how they want us to view our bodies and those of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Dove’s message is not invalidated by Axe’s misogyny any more than it is invalidated by those Bud Light commercials. Don’t punish Dove for being under the Unilever umbrella any more than you’d praise Axe for it. If anything we should be praising Dove’s marketing director for making such a radical perspective mainstream.”</p>
<p>Typical consumerist apologetics, I’m afraid. If someone points out a major problem in society, you can’t wave it away by saying, “hey, that’s just how our economic system works”, because our economic system was put together by a relatively small group of dead people, and living people can build a new one that serves our needs better. Besides, as someone noted earlier in the thread, the Dove ad is only “radical” from the “perspective” of the “mainstream”: their models still conform to roughly the same beauty standards and apparently the making of the ads is something like a dishonest softcore porn shoot. There’s nothing revolutionary here, except the implication of what we should do to Unilever and other megacorporations that set the agenda while teaching us how they want us to view our bodies and those of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Beauty Is the Pits &#124; Beauty Is Inside</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-486750</link>
		<dc:creator>Beauty Is the Pits &#124; Beauty Is Inside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mens products whose ads feature the same sexist imagery that Dove® is allegedly fighting against. This site shows one of the videos put out by the Dove® campaign, along with a brilliantly re-edited video [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mens products whose ads feature the same sexist imagery that Dove® is allegedly fighting against. This site shows one of the videos put out by the Dove® campaign, along with a brilliantly re-edited video [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anyc</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-476337</link>
		<dc:creator>Anyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;take it like men&quot;? Really? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;take it like men&#8221;? Really? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anyc</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-476333</link>
		<dc:creator>Anyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being addressed as such, and behaving that way is nowhere near as damaging to their status as individuals as the generalizations shoved at women, I&#039;m sad to say. Plus, when you&#039;re part of a group that wields the most power, as the white men to whom products like Axe are marketed, such generalizations are easy to dismiss as jokes and can quite easily be ignored when it comes right down to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being addressed as such, and behaving that way is nowhere near as damaging to their status as individuals as the generalizations shoved at women, I&#8217;m sad to say. Plus, when you&#8217;re part of a group that wields the most power, as the white men to whom products like Axe are marketed, such generalizations are easy to dismiss as jokes and can quite easily be ignored when it comes right down to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anyc</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-476332</link>
		<dc:creator>Anyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I agree. Village Idiot, you ain&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I agree. Village Idiot, you ain&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Boobs with Blogs &#124; nonsequiteuse</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-419865</link>
		<dc:creator>Boobs with Blogs &#124; nonsequiteuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 14:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to help you, are several blog posts that deconstruct and tear apart that campaign for real beauty to buy Dove soap (and point out that the same company sells Axe body [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to help you, are several blog posts that deconstruct and tear apart that campaign for real beauty to buy Dove soap (and point out that the same company sells Axe body [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday Pleasures #72 &#171; Shanna Germain</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-373551</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday Pleasures #72 &#171; Shanna Germain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Smart Company. Smart Ads. Sneaky Ads? Dove Hits All Markets. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Smart Company. Smart Ads. Sneaky Ads? Dove Hits All Markets. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Corporate Contradictions: Making Sense of Dove&#8217;s new &#8220;Men+Care&#8221; campaign &#171; Yeah, That Needs to Go</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-241938</link>
		<dc:creator>Corporate Contradictions: Making Sense of Dove&#8217;s new &#8220;Men+Care&#8221; campaign &#171; Yeah, That Needs to Go</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my googling of Dove , I cam across this great post (read it! watch the videos!) that put this whole conversation into perspective for me. Unilever [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my googling of Dove , I cam across this great post (read it! watch the videos!) that put this whole conversation into perspective for me. Unilever [...]</p>
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		<title>By: An Example of Compulsory Femininity &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-240098</link>
		<dc:creator>An Example of Compulsory Femininity &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is the same Dove, of course, that markets itself with the &#8220;real beauty&#8221; campaign and is owned by the same company as Axe.  var addthis_language = &#039;en&#039;;       2 Comments     Tags: bodies, gender, gender: beauty, gender: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is the same Dove, of course, that markets itself with the &#8220;real beauty&#8221; campaign and is owned by the same company as Axe.  var addthis_language = &#39;en&#39;;       2 Comments     Tags: bodies, gender, gender: beauty, gender: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Big Mama, You&#8217;re Beautiful&#8221; &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-222214</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Big Mama, You&#8217;re Beautiful&#8221; &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some reason, this vintage ad seems so much more genuine than any of its modern [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some reason, this vintage ad seems so much more genuine than any of its modern [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karlee</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-218333</link>
		<dc:creator>Karlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding post. Thanks for your great thoughts :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding post. Thanks for your great thoughts :)</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-165961</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would in no way defend all the destruction that is done to the earth, but attacking one company that uses Palm Oil, out of hundreds that do, seems a little misguided. How about attacking the industry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would in no way defend all the destruction that is done to the earth, but attacking one company that uses Palm Oil, out of hundreds that do, seems a little misguided. How about attacking the industry?</p>
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		<title>By: BEN AND JERRY&#8217;S: PROGRESSIVE AT ONE LEVEL, PURE CAPITALIST AT ANOTHER &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/05/24/onslaught-dove-vs-axe/comment-page-1/#comment-152083</link>
		<dc:creator>BEN AND JERRY&#8217;S: PROGRESSIVE AT ONE LEVEL, PURE CAPITALIST AT ANOTHER &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dove, (misogynistic) Axe, and (racist) Fair and Lovely products (examples here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and [...]</description>
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