Comments on: “No” Doesn’t Really Mean “No” http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/ Sociological Images encourages people to exercise and develop their sociological imaginations with discussions of compelling visuals that span the breadth of sociological inquiry. Fri, 25 May 2012 00:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: MTV worries me… part 4; Making Street Harassment ‘Sexy’ « Uplift Magazine http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-168286 MTV worries me… part 4; Making Street Harassment ‘Sexy’ « Uplift Magazine Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:54:47 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-168286 [...] ‘Silly boys’. The message of both songs is almost identical to this advert (found here on Sociological [...] [...] ‘Silly boys’. The message of both songs is almost identical to this advert (found here on Sociological [...]

]]> By: Naturalizing Male Harassment of Women in Dance » Sociological Images http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-157702 Naturalizing Male Harassment of Women in Dance » Sociological Images Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:37:28 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-157702 [...] mean “no”: caveman courtship, it’s not “no” if she’s a zombie, you may say “no,” but your perfume says “yes,” and some pretty grotesque t-shirts. 70 Comments Tags: emotion, gender, gender: violence, [...] [...] mean “no”: caveman courtship, it’s not “no” if she’s a zombie, you may say “no,” but your perfume says “yes,” and some pretty grotesque t-shirts. 70 Comments Tags: emotion, gender, gender: violence, [...]

]]> By: Jessica http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-155294 Jessica Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:52:06 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-155294 Wow, I wore fetish when I was a kid/teenager (like 13) in the late 90s. It was definitely marketed for that age group back then, with the fun bottle and such. I vaguely remember this ad, too, as well as the persistent message in teen mags that good girls don't, nothing is sexier than respecting yourself, etc., and by the way, as you respect yourself, be sure to wear a bikini and look sexy in it. Wow, I wore fetish when I was a kid/teenager (like 13) in the late 90s. It was definitely marketed for that age group back then, with the fun bottle and such. I vaguely remember this ad, too, as well as the persistent message in teen mags that good girls don’t, nothing is sexier than respecting yourself, etc., and by the way, as you respect yourself, be sure to wear a bikini and look sexy in it.

]]> By: Gwen http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-839 Gwen Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:33:00 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-839 Oh, yes, I should have said in the post that it's not in use any more. But it's an interesting image for talking about marketing and uses of sex. Oh, yes, I should have said in the post that it’s not in use any more. But it’s an interesting image for talking about marketing and uses of sex.

]]> By: echomrg http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-838 echomrg Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:14:00 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-838 Just a couple of notes.<br/><br/>The ad is from 1997 and has been retired after complaints to the perfume producers.<br/><br/>M Just a couple of notes.

The ad is from 1997 and has been retired after complaints to the perfume producers.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-837 Anonymous Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:39:00 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-837 i think if she was using men as playthings, she would look more powerful.<br/>instead, she is not making eye contact, looks rather young and pale, and her eyeshadow makes her look sick, or drugged, or emaciated. and the pose is a little uncertain.<br/>i think that i would be the last person to violate another woman, but i just realized there's something i find disturbingly sexy about her saying "no" and meaning "yes" and the fact that our culture has made that kind of impact on what i find arousing. i think if she was using men as playthings, she would look more powerful.
instead, she is not making eye contact, looks rather young and pale, and her eyeshadow makes her look sick, or drugged, or emaciated. and the pose is a little uncertain.
i think that i would be the last person to violate another woman, but i just realized there’s something i find disturbingly sexy about her saying “no” and meaning “yes” and the fact that our culture has made that kind of impact on what i find arousing.

]]> By: Gwen http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-836 Gwen Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:05:00 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-836 That's an interesting perspective--also sociologically useful. That’s an interesting perspective–also sociologically useful.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-835 Anonymous Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:14:00 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-835 I get the impression that it's trying to present the perfume as giving the girl the ability to treat men as playthings. I get the impression that it’s trying to present the perfume as giving the girl the ability to treat men as playthings.

]]> By: mati http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-834 mati Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:27:00 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-834 Or simply means you will be so attractive you will seduce men inadvertently, then you have to say no.<br/><br/>Or just the power to discard men...<br/><br/>Or... Or simply means you will be so attractive you will seduce men inadvertently, then you have to say no.

Or just the power to discard men…

Or…

]]> By: Green Ink http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-833 Green Ink Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:11:00 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-833 Assume you've seen this on BoingBoing- a children's book about plastic surgery!<br/>http://www.boingboing.net/2008/04/16/childrens-book-about.html Assume you’ve seen this on BoingBoing- a children’s book about plastic surgery!
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/04/16/childrens-book-about.html

]]> By: John L http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/comment-page-1/#comment-832 John L Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:11:00 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/04/16/no-doesnt-really-mean-no/#comment-832 This ad is also featured in Still Killing Us Softly 3, featuring Jean Kilbourne. This ad is also featured in Still Killing Us Softly 3, featuring Jean Kilbourne.

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