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	<title>Comments on: Twitter: Enhancing Civil Discourse at Conferences?</title>
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	<description>We live in a cyborg society. Technology has infiltrated the most fundamental aspects of our lives: social organization, the body, even our self-concepts. This blog chronicles our new, augmented reality.</description>
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		<title>By: Nick Guenther</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2011/08/29/twitter-enhancing-civil-discourse-at-conferences/#comment-34149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Guenther]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2013 04:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a better forum: irc. Free and decentralized, ancient, well supported. Don&#039;t forget that communication forums exist in all sorts of forms, Twitter is just one of them, it&#039;s just that it *is* hip these days. That is a danger, the same way that Mathematica being closed source is a danger to the reproducibility (ergo credibility) of research. Twitter is also a danger because even though they keep all tweets you can&#039;t dig them up, and they are a decidely for-profit company that you are conflating and (incorrectly) neutering by calling them a &#039;tool&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a better forum: irc. Free and decentralized, ancient, well supported. Don&#8217;t forget that communication forums exist in all sorts of forms, Twitter is just one of them, it&#8217;s just that it *is* hip these days. That is a danger, the same way that Mathematica being closed source is a danger to the reproducibility (ergo credibility) of research. Twitter is also a danger because even though they keep all tweets you can&#8217;t dig them up, and they are a decidely for-profit company that you are conflating and (incorrectly) neutering by calling them a &#8216;tool&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cabell</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2011/08/29/twitter-enhancing-civil-discourse-at-conferences/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cabell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This seems like the general argument against allowing any laptop use in class at all, with which I don&#039;t have much sympathy.  As an instructor, I can&#039;t force my students to pay attention, and honestly if they&#039;re not whispering or otherwise distracting me/their peers, I don&#039;t care that much.  There are plenty of penalties built-in for not listening to my lecture.

And many people CAN actually pay attention while multi-tasking; even if they&#039;re playing on Twitter or Facebook while I&#039;m talking in a way unrelated to my lecture, that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean they&#039;re not listening.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s my job (or my right) to dictate whether that&#039;s possible for other people.

So short answer: since students are allowed to be on their laptops during my lecture, I am de facto allowing them to be on Twitter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like the general argument against allowing any laptop use in class at all, with which I don&#8217;t have much sympathy.  As an instructor, I can&#8217;t force my students to pay attention, and honestly if they&#8217;re not whispering or otherwise distracting me/their peers, I don&#8217;t care that much.  There are plenty of penalties built-in for not listening to my lecture.</p>
<p>And many people CAN actually pay attention while multi-tasking; even if they&#8217;re playing on Twitter or Facebook while I&#8217;m talking in a way unrelated to my lecture, that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean they&#8217;re not listening.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s my job (or my right) to dictate whether that&#8217;s possible for other people.</p>
<p>So short answer: since students are allowed to be on their laptops during my lecture, I am de facto allowing them to be on Twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ Rey</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2011/08/29/twitter-enhancing-civil-discourse-at-conferences/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PJ Rey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If my students were spontaneously and willingly discussing Weber&#039;s iron cage, whether online or offline, I would consider that a huge success.  Student can find plenty of ways to distract themselves regardless of Twitter, but augmenting the classroom with online social networking might foster discussions that woulbed otherwise be impossible during a lecture.

Jaime - It sounds like you believe learning is a top-down process as opposed to a collaborative process.  If I held that same underlying philosophy of education, I probably would be skeptical of Twitter too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my students were spontaneously and willingly discussing Weber&#8217;s iron cage, whether online or offline, I would consider that a huge success.  Student can find plenty of ways to distract themselves regardless of Twitter, but augmenting the classroom with online social networking might foster discussions that woulbed otherwise be impossible during a lecture.</p>
<p>Jaime &#8211; It sounds like you believe learning is a top-down process as opposed to a collaborative process.  If I held that same underlying philosophy of education, I probably would be skeptical of Twitter too.</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2011/08/29/twitter-enhancing-civil-discourse-at-conferences/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[here&#039;s a question about twitter usage: 

if it&#039;s ok during conference presentations, should students be allowed to tweet during our classes? E.g., when we&#039;re teaching about Weber in introductory soc, should we consider our explanation of the iron cage &quot;fair game&quot; for the 300 students listening to us lecture? granted, some instructors purposefully use twitter as part of their classes, but should we just assume that students can generate a twitter firestorm while we are teaching?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s a question about twitter usage: </p>
<p>if it&#8217;s ok during conference presentations, should students be allowed to tweet during our classes? E.g., when we&#8217;re teaching about Weber in introductory soc, should we consider our explanation of the iron cage &#8220;fair game&#8221; for the 300 students listening to us lecture? granted, some instructors purposefully use twitter as part of their classes, but should we just assume that students can generate a twitter firestorm while we are teaching?</p>
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		<title>By: Replqwtil</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2011/08/29/twitter-enhancing-civil-discourse-at-conferences/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Replqwtil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really good post! I like your identification of the non-user&#039;s malaise, but I think you hit the nail on the head with your characterization of Twitter&#039;s actual effect on discourse, and the conference environment as a whole.

There seems to be something about institutional environments which stymies person to person contact, a sort of barrier of unfamiliar protocols coupled with an unfamiliar place that can hold back personal interactions. It seems like twitter is able to reconnect people on that personal level, its nature as an open person to person network might work to re-establish a sense of place and community amongst people. I&#039;m not really sure, but I feel as though there is something there which contrasts old institutions characterized by human networks (bureaucracy)&#039; and new institutions formed of digital networks. A transparency which seems to open up new (old?) forms of interpersonal contact.

Anyway, rambling. Very thought provoking write-up! Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good post! I like your identification of the non-user&#8217;s malaise, but I think you hit the nail on the head with your characterization of Twitter&#8217;s actual effect on discourse, and the conference environment as a whole.</p>
<p>There seems to be something about institutional environments which stymies person to person contact, a sort of barrier of unfamiliar protocols coupled with an unfamiliar place that can hold back personal interactions. It seems like twitter is able to reconnect people on that personal level, its nature as an open person to person network might work to re-establish a sense of place and community amongst people. I&#8217;m not really sure, but I feel as though there is something there which contrasts old institutions characterized by human networks (bureaucracy)&#8217; and new institutions formed of digital networks. A transparency which seems to open up new (old?) forms of interpersonal contact.</p>
<p>Anyway, rambling. Very thought provoking write-up! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian Powers (@DrBrutusPowers)</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2011/08/29/twitter-enhancing-civil-discourse-at-conferences/#comment-1318</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jillian Powers (@DrBrutusPowers)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice post, I too agree. I also think it helps a sometimes overwhelming conference feel more communal in itself. I found twitter really helped me become a little less shy and opened up my professional network.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, I too agree. I also think it helps a sometimes overwhelming conference feel more communal in itself. I found twitter really helped me become a little less shy and opened up my professional network.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie Daniels (@JessieNYC)</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2011/08/29/twitter-enhancing-civil-discourse-at-conferences/#comment-1315</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessie Daniels (@JessieNYC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice post, Cabell.  I like the last line so much, I want to re-post it everywhere: 

 &lt;i&gt;If conferences are supposed to create space for conversations, it’s hard to imagine a better tool.&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Cabell.  I like the last line so much, I want to re-post it everywhere: </p>
<p> <i>If conferences are supposed to create space for conversations, it’s hard to imagine a better tool.</i></p>
<p>Indeed.</p>
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